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    Crazy high Salary

    Say what you want about Large Market vs. Small Market. TV and Radio Contracts. But $1.7 million for one year for Chris Heisey??? That is outrageous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock of Truth View Post
    Say what you want about Large Market vs. Small Market. TV and Radio Contracts. But $1.7 million for one year for Chris Heisey??? That is outrageous.
    No it isn't.

    I'd rather the players get it than the owners just pocket it.

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    Re: Crazy high Salary

    While his numbers were off slightly last year due to being injured, Heisey is well worth 1.7 million for his defense alone. He's a solid, reliable fill-in for Ludwick or Hamilton.

    Plus, it's not like his salary skyrocketed. He made 1.3 mil last year.

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    Re: Crazy high Salary

    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
    While his numbers were off slightly last year due to being injured, Heisey is well worth 1.7 million for his defense alone. He's a solid, reliable fill-in for Ludwick or Hamilton.

    Plus, it's not like his salary skyrocketed. He made 1.3 mil last year.
    I am not saying he is not worth $1.7 mil, but I find it hard to believe they could not get a player for the league minimum that would provide either equal or better "defense alone."

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    Yes it is!

    If you want that money to go to players rather than owners, then give it to another player. That is big money for Brandon Larson type stats.

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    Re: Crazy high Salary

    To you and me its a crazy high salary but in the baseball world it is not. I don't think its even the league average.
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    Re: Crazy high Salary

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock of Truth View Post
    Yes it is!

    If you want that money to go to players rather than owners, then give it to another player. That is big money for Brandon Larson type stats.
    1.7 is big money in today's game?

    Not at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I am not saying he is not worth $1.7 mil, but I find it hard to believe they could not get a player for the league minimum that would provide either equal or better "defense alone."
    Who?

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    Re: Crazy high Salary

    I'm almost positive he's off base, but I hesitate to argue with the rock of truth.

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    Re: Crazy high Salary

    Of all the high salaries in baseball, you target Chris Heisey making $1.7 mil?
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Crazy high Salary

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    1.7 is big money in today's game?

    Not at all
    Its probably about what Heisey is worth. However you would hope organizations can produce 4th and 5th type outfielders so they don't need to shell out $1.7 for the Heisey's of the world and allocate that money elsewhere.

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    Re: Crazy high Salary

    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
    Who?
    Sam Fuld

    Ryan LaMarre

    Yorman Rodriguez

    Other minor leagues who stink at hitting but stick around because of their defense.

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    Re: Crazy high Salary

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Its probably about what Heisey is worth. However you would hope organizations can produce 4th and 5th type outfielders so they don't need to shell out $1.7 for the Heisey's of the world and allocate that money elsewhere.
    True, average salary is around 3.5, minimum is around 500K, guys like Chris Heisey tend to jump around once they settle into that 4th OF role and get costly.

    1.7 is not too pricey for his skill set, maybe in a year or two, or if he never sees CF again or loses his pop more and more.

    But Heisey isn't a problem in the payroll world, but on the field his numbers have dropped the last two years

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    YEAR TEAM         AGE G    AB    R    H    2B  3B  HR   HR%   RBI  BB   SO   SB   CS  AVG   SLG  OBA   OPS
    2010 Reds         25   97   201   33   51  10   1   8   3.98   21   16   57    1   2  .254  .433  .324  .757 
    2011 Reds         26  120   279   44   71   9   1  18   6.45   50   19   78    6   1  .254  .487  .309  .797 
         TOTALS           217   480   77  122  19   2  26   5.42   71   35  135    7   3  .254  .465  .316  .780 
         LG AVERAGE             477   61  124  25   3  13   2.78   58   46   98    9   4  .260  .407  .329  .736 
         POS AVERAGE            479   64  125  26   3  15   3.13   63   46  101   10   4  .261  .421  .328  .749 
    
    
    
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    YEAR TEAM         AGE G    AB    R    H    2B  3B  HR   HR%   RBI  BB   SO   SB   CS  AVG   SLG  OBA   OPS
    2012 Reds         27  120   347   44   92  16   5   7   2.02   31   18   81    6   3  .265  .401  .315  .715 
    2013 Reds         28   87   224   29   53  11   1   9   4.02   23    9   51    3   0  .237  .415  .279  .694 
         TOTALS           207   571   73  145  27   6  16   2.80   54   27  132    9   3  .254  .406  .301  .707 
         LG AVERAGE             576   72  149  30   4  16   2.83   69   52  122   11   4  .260  .408  .325  .734 
         POS AVERAGE            575   76  150  30   4  19   3.29   71   52  130   14   5  .260  .425  .326  .751

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    Re: Crazy high Salary

    Isn't the estimate that 1 WAR is worth about $6 million? By that, Heisey is well worth $1.7 million.

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    Re: Crazy high Salary

    Quote Originally Posted by Hillsdale87 View Post
    Isn't the estimate that 1 WAR is worth about $6 million? By that, Heisey is well worth $1.7 million.
    Yes and yes.

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