I'd liken the first round to a person investing in his retirement fund. There should be a clear need, and the pick should have a pretty good chance at return on investment. Rounds 2-4 are like someone gambling on a sport he "knows". There's certainly a logic to follow, and there's plenty of information, but there's still enough unknown to make even the smartest gambler/drafter "wrong" nearly as often as he's right.
Rounds 5-7 are essentially a raffle ticket.
If there's a guy in the 7th round who you thought would be good and he ends up being good? Congratulations. But it doesn't mean you "know" more than the team's drafting. It means that this year, your # came up aces but gives no indication as to the odds you'll be right next year.
Hoosier Red (05-13-2014)
It's why tens of millions of fans watched the draft (you probably watched it yourself or looked up who your favorite football team drafted).
Otherwise, as you say, it doesn't matter who at all was drafted and there's absolutely no reason to even have knowledge of who was drafted, since none of them have ever played a snap in the NFL. How can anyone possibly have any iota of knowledge about anyone's potential because everyone is an absolute idiot in this world and has no idea what they are doing when it comes to judging the potential of someone who has never played a snap in the NFL?
Last edited by Kingspoint; 05-13-2014 at 05:13 PM.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Wear gaudy colors, or avoid display. Lay a million eggs or give birth to one. The fittest shall survive, yet the unfit may live. Be like your ancestors or be different. We must repeat!
However, having more talent at the position is obviously always a good thing and the Bengals, as well as many pundits, believe they got the best player in the draft.
There's a reason for this. Offensive and Defensive trends in the NFL are cyclical, but the advent of the two back system is one that will be permanent. Only teams with the most elite running backs (ala Adrian Peterson) will still give one guy the overwhelming majority of snaps. Almost every team has started over the last few years to split time amongst 2 or more running backs. This keeps players healthier, leaves them fresher at the end of the year, and brings more versatility to your offense.
Thanks in part to this, NFL teams arent looking at the RB position in the draft the same way as they would have as recently as five years ago. In the 90s, Sankey, Hyde, and Hill would all have easily been first round picks. The talent is there, but because most every team isn't looking for a 300+ carry back anymore, the draft value is lessened for the entire position versus positions like OT and CB where guys play every snap.
In summation, I think the Bengals got the best back in the draft and a guy that just a few years ago might have been a top fifteen pick. With a pick at the end of the second round, I think it was a great move.
Last edited by OGB; 05-14-2014 at 05:40 PM.
(Referring to Jack Hannahan signing with a Korean team)
Since there are no teams on the moon, I guess South Korea's far enough from Cincinnati to satisfy me.
I like the Bodine pick as the Bengals think the kid can start. He can play both Guard spots as well as Center which fits the mold they want for offensive lineman. Plus 42 reps of 225 ain't bad either. As far as AJ goes, drafting a kid with a 3rd round grade in the 5th isn't bad. At worst he is a back up QB at best he turns into a starter. Wallace Gillberry grew up with him and vouched for him today to the media. The only pick I didn't care for was Hill and that was due to his run in with the law, was hoping the Bengals were past that kind of player, but talent always trumps trouble with this team.
If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.
In regards to the Hill, Hyde debate I don't mind the pick on the surface. The way the Bengals described it I completely agree with. Hyde played in a pistol/shotgun formation with a great offensive line. Hill played in more of a pro-style format where he had to make people miss right off the bat. Hyde was a great downhill RB who rarely got stopped for negative yards. While Hyde may not be a choir boy, Hill may qualify as one of the worst character players in the draft. IIRC he was on probation and sucker punched a guy at a bar. He then was allowed to play because Les Miles put it to a vote whether they team wanted Hill to play or not. Had Miles had a backbone Hill would have been kicked off the team and likely a 7th rounder at best.
As for McCarron he reeks of a Greg McElory pick. Huge amount of college success but major questions. I doubt he ever becomes a NFL quality starter may at best be a quality backup. As for ego or a chip on his shoulder, good for him, but that won't make him a starter overnight. Maybe he develops, maybe not, the NFL is littered with guys who had stud college careers with great teams but didn't make it in the NFL.
We extended Dalton for six years, 115 million.
I like it, tho I'm sure many don't. Will wait to see the contract details before deciding either way...
Hoosier Red (08-04-2014)
Way too much for Dalton. Most of these $100M+ deals just don't work out... for any organization.
Baltimore has been disheveled by Flacco's silly deal. Pittsburgh even took a little dip with Big Ben's deal.
Rounding third and heading for home...
It all comes down to guaranteed money. Dalton's certainly going to be the starter for 2014-15. He ought not get guaranteed money beyond that. As long as he's the starter he deserves starter money. If he loses his starting job then they ought to be able to cut him and move on. The details are what's going to make or break this deal
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