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    Re: 2014 Plan.....Now....

    Those stats are the minor league stats for Albert Pujols.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewdog View Post
    Those stats are the minor league stats for Albert Pujols.
    I get where you're coming from, but its a little different. Pujols had 14 AAA at bats that year. BH played a full season with bad results at AAA.

    Personally I think BH could surprise a lot of people this year, but you're making the wrong comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by No pants Mcgee View Post
    I get where you're coming from, but its a little different. Pujols had 14 AAA at bats that year. BH played a full season with bad results at AAA.

    Personally I think BH could surprise a lot of people this year, but you're making the wrong comparison
    But Pujols had some at bats in Single A+ and wasn't all that great.

    Just give Hamilton a shot, he is going to surprise people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewdog View Post
    But Pujols had some at bats in Single A+ and wasn't all that great.

    Just give Hamilton a shot, he is going to surprise people.
    His high A numbers weren't too shabby in my opinion.

    I've been saying for a while now that BH has a chance to surpass expectations. Should be a huge defensive improvement. Then also if he can just work on the little things i.e. bunting he becomes a little more dangerous. Also people need to look at his splits last season. Last season he got off to a miserable start hitting .205 after the first month of the season. Take away the month of april and his stats start looking a bit more respectable. Granted most players you take away the worst month of the season and they have much better numbers, but I think a slow start is probably a fairly common occurrence when a player moves up through the minors.

    I agree billie has the best chance to succeed of any CF on the reds roster right now. The Pujols comparison is just a bit off though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewdog View Post
    But Pujols had some at bats in Single A+ and wasn't all that great.

    Just give Hamilton a shot, he is going to surprise people.
    The fact that doing well would surprise people is exactly why he shouldn't be handed a job.
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewdog View Post
    But Pujols had some at bats in Single A+ and wasn't all that great.

    Just give Hamilton a shot, he is going to surprise people.
    Pujols hit incredibly well that summer in spring training, and in spite of that he wasn't going to make the 25-man roster. An injury to Bobby Bonilla gave him his shot, and he took advantage of that.

    And he is not a first-ballot hall of famer yet.

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    You also fail to mention that all of his minor league stats are from one season (2000) in which he jumped from A-ball to AAA.

    His AAA numbers are completely irrelevant considering he only played in 3 games (15 PA).

    His overall minors numbers that year through 3 levels were .314/.378/.543 which was enough to merit a spring invite in 2001. Had Bonilla not been injured he most certainly would have started the season in AAA (but probably would have seen an early call up).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ac084c View Post
    Pujols hit incredibly well that summer in spring training, and in spite of that he wasn't going to make the 25-man roster. An injury to Bobby Bonilla gave him his shot, and he took advantage of that.

    And he is not a first-ballot hall of famer yet.
    Ha! Not a first ballot? A career .321 Avg, a career, .410 OBP a career 1.009 OPS, oh and 492 HR 1498 RBI, not to mention his long list of awards...3 time NL MVP alone would get him in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewdog View Post
    Ha! Not a first ballot? A career .321 Avg, a career, .410 OBP a career 1.009 OPS, oh and 492 HR 1498 RBI, not to mention his long list of awards...3 time NL MVP alone would get him in.
    I agree, his resume looks like he's a lock, but he's not in yet, and the way the voters are treating players in this era... you never know.

    Plus he's got 8 years left on his ridiculous contract. If he plays it out (not likely), he won't even appear on the ballot until 2026.

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    I say give Hamilton a shot in center and work on the other holes.

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