Matt Holiday conveniently forgives Peralta

[RedTeamGo!]

People would go so far as to say the cardinals are just like the Phillies, Cubs, and Giants.

I guess the reds are now like those clubs

links?

And there it is.....the moment Salukifan2 lost all credibility on redszone in my eyes.

[indyscott]

Whadda guy. As the Bible instructs us, Mr. Holliday, first take the syringe out of your butt, then you can take the syringe out of your teammates' butt.

Where are you getting Holliday using PEDs?

[SporkLover]

Man thats rich! I'd be pissed if I were JP and MH actually used those words in reference to me.... I forgive him. MH is the new Brian Mccann?

On another note, the worst part of the hot stove is that non-news becomes news.

[indyscott]

Man thats rich! I'd be pissed if I were JP and MH actually used those words in reference to me.... I forgive him. MH is the new Brian Mccann?

On another note, the worst part of the hot stove is that non-news becomes news.

What would you have said if you were in MH position?

[dsmith421]

Where are you getting Holliday using PEDs?

He played for Tony La Russa in St. Louis. By baseball writer logic, that's sufficient.

[indyscott]

He played for Tony La Russa in St. Louis. By baseball writer logic, that's sufficient.

So are you starting a link about ryan ludwick and scott rolen? Oh and can you link me to the thread you started being furious when we signed Skip?

[Joseph]

This doesn't change that Holliday still believes Peralta should have been suspended for a full season. Nothing he can do about a new teammate. I still say the signing was the best available option especially considering how heavily front loaded the contract is, making it easier to move him in the future if necessary, and it didn't cost a draft pick.

Additionally, the cards still have lots of available cash. In fact, the reds payroll has surpassed the cardinals. As a Cardinal fan, it really annoys me to see big market clubs like SF, Chicago, LA, and Cincinnati spend their way to divisional titles while regular places like STL have to compete with less resources.

Cards payroll 2013 $116,702,085
Reds payroll 2013 $110,565,728

And when did the Cubs spend their way to a division title lately?

The Cards are a model franchise, you should be proud of that. Whining about spending when they are a few dollars out of the top 10 doesn't seem very wise.

[Salukifan2]

Wasn't Walt Jocketty Signing all the PED bums?

@RedTeamGo because you've only been here some 9 months you would not recall the arguments I used to get in with Doug and Hometown where they claimed STL is a large market team based on how much the cardinals spent, and not on how large the market actually was. I'm simply being a sarcastic ass and flipping that argument now. Thanks for taking the bait.

edit: this isn't meant to call out Doug or Hometown. I respect doug above pretty much everyone else on here

[Salukifan2]

Cards payroll 2013 $116,702,085
Reds payroll 2013 $110,565,728

And when did the Cubs spend their way to a division title lately?

The Cards are a model franchise, you should be proud of that. Whining about spending when they are a few dollars out of the top 10 doesn't seem very wise.

Why don't you look at the 2014 projections. The cardinals won't be getting any larger before spring training, but the reds might.

The last time they were able to spend their way there was 2007 and 2008. Do you not remember?

[RedTeamGo!]

Thanks for taking the bait.

Isn't there an internet term for this? I cannot seem to remember what it is...

[RedTeamGo!]

Wasn't Walt Jocketty Signing all the PED bums?

@RedTeamGo because you've only been here some 9 months you would not recall the arguments I used to get in with Doug and Hometown where they claimed STL is a large market team based on how much the cardinals spent, and not on how large the market actually was. I'm simply being a sarcastic ass and flipping that argument now. Thanks for taking the bait.

edit: this isn't meant to call out Doug or Hometown. I respect doug above pretty much everyone else on here

I have been reading redszone for 10 years. Links?

[westofyou]

Yay a thread about the Cardinals!!

[SirFelixCat]

Good thing we have Cards fans here riling things up. :no:

[RedsfaninMT]

Why don't you look at the 2014 projections. The cardinals won't be getting any larger before spring training, but the reds might.

The last time they were able to spend their way there was 2007 and 2008. Do you not remember?

I see the Cards paying $100 million to 11 players. Figure an average of 500K for the remaining 14 players, and we're talking $107 million.

Reds are at $88 million for 18 players. Throw in $9 mill for Bailey, $5 million for Chapman and we're at $102 for 20 players. Add in $2.5 for the remaining 5 slots, and we're at $104.5.

104.5<107 with my math understanding.

[757690]

What would you have said if you were in MH position?

He should have said nothing. If asked about it, say it's a not worth talking about, and move on. It seems that's what every other Cardinal has smartly chosen to do.