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    And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    The question of spring training:

    If Billy Hamilton shows in spring training he isn't ready then what?
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Then you stick Heisey there and pursue other options.

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Gotta ask Phillips to lead off and pray for an OBP that looks more like those three good months from 2013, don't they?

    It's a good question, but I think they give Hamilton every opportunity to make it happen.
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    You stick with him.

    His defense alone should justify keeping him in the majors.
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    You stick with him.

    His defense alone should justify keeping him in the majors.
    I wouldn't be so quick to think of him as a sure thing.

    I'm bullish on him, but there is a legitimate chance for failure.

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I wouldn't be so quick to think of him as a sure thing.

    I'm bullish on him, but there is a legitimate chance for failure.
    Drew Stubbs had a .610 OPS in 2012 and was a 1 win player. Hamilton should provide more production outside his bat than Stubbs did. He'd likely have to OPS below .550 to be replacement level overall. That's worse than Taveras in 2009.
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Drew Stubbs had a .610 OPS in 2012 and was a 1 win player. Hamilton should provide more production outside his bat than Stubbs did. He'd likely have to OPS below .550 to be replacement level overall. That's worse than Taveras in 2009.
    Agree, sink or swim with Billy in CF for 3 years...

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    The question of spring training:

    If Billy Hamilton shows in spring training he isn't ready then what?
    I don't think spring training is going to prove anything. If he has a terrible spring then everyone is even more worried. If he has a great spring then people will say he needs to do it when games count. How he does in April and into May is what matters when it comes to "then what".

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    And if his bat is no better than what Drew Stubbs was?
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    And if his bat is no better than what Drew Stubbs was?
    Isn't that the same thing as not being ready?

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    And if his bat is no better than what Drew Stubbs was?
    If he could hit like Stubbs, I'd be thrilled. With his speed and base stealing, he'd score 90 runs. That would be a decent rookie season for him.

    Worst case, if Billy struggles really badly offensively, you drop him to the #8 spot in the lineup. You can also use Heisy and Schumaker to spot start against tough matchups.
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    And if his bat is no better than what Drew Stubbs was?
    Hopefully Price is smart enough not to put him at the top of the lineup. An 8th place batting BH wouldn't be a terrible thing to have roaming CF.
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Hopefully Price is smart enough not to put him at the top of the lineup. An 8th place batting BH wouldn't be a terrible thing to have roaming CF.
    I say hit him 9th, would kinda be like batting 1st once the line-up has rolled over.

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by dubc47834 View Post
    I say hit him 9th, would kinda be like batting 1st once the line-up has rolled over.
    Actually I think it would be fun to put Hamilton in the 8 slot.
    It relieves any pressure he might feel leading off.
    He would get some small OBP boost with the pitcher behind him.
    A pitchers sacrifice would likely put Hamilton on 3rd for the top of the order.

    I wouldn't do it because somebody has to lead off and Hamilton is the obvious choice, but if he struggles getting on base put him 8th and play to his strength.
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by dubc47834 View Post
    I say hit him 9th, would kinda be like batting 1st once the line-up has rolled over.
    I could get behind that. I was convinced that that's what should be done with Stubbs. If Hamilton is going to put up similar numbers, I don't see why it would be a bad thing.
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