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    And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    The question of spring training:

    If Billy Hamilton shows in spring training he isn't ready then what?
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Then you stick Heisey there and pursue other options.

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Gotta ask Phillips to lead off and pray for an OBP that looks more like those three good months from 2013, don't they?

    It's a good question, but I think they give Hamilton every opportunity to make it happen.
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    You stick with him.

    His defense alone should justify keeping him in the majors.
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    The question of spring training:

    If Billy Hamilton shows in spring training he isn't ready then what?
    I don't think spring training is going to prove anything. If he has a terrible spring then everyone is even more worried. If he has a great spring then people will say he needs to do it when games count. How he does in April and into May is what matters when it comes to "then what".

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    And if his bat is no better than what Drew Stubbs was?
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Hook View Post
    I don't think spring training is going to prove anything. If he has a terrible spring then everyone is even more worried. If he has a great spring then people will say he needs to do it when games count. How he does in April and into May is what matters when it comes to "then what".
    And that's how I am taking this question. Basically it is asking, "What happens if Billy flames out?", timeline is hardly the point.

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    You stick with him.

    His defense alone should justify keeping him in the majors.
    I wouldn't be so quick to think of him as a sure thing.

    I'm bullish on him, but there is a legitimate chance for failure.

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    And if his bat is no better than what Drew Stubbs was?
    Isn't that the same thing as not being ready?

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Krusty View Post
    And if his bat is no better than what Drew Stubbs was?
    If he could hit like Stubbs, I'd be thrilled. With his speed and base stealing, he'd score 90 runs. That would be a decent rookie season for him.

    Worst case, if Billy struggles really badly offensively, you drop him to the #8 spot in the lineup. You can also use Heisy and Schumaker to spot start against tough matchups.
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    60 spring training plate appearances shouldn't determine one way or the other whether Hamilton is ready or not. That decision should be made off of his results from last season in the Minors and the Majors.

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    He can still be used as a pinch-runner 40-50 times when he doesn't start. He proved how valuable he is being used that way last Fall.

    He's going to bring value to the ball-club, making them very dangerous in the late innings with his base-stealing ability.

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I wouldn't be so quick to think of him as a sure thing.

    I'm bullish on him, but there is a legitimate chance for failure.
    Drew Stubbs had a .610 OPS in 2012 and was a 1 win player. Hamilton should provide more production outside his bat than Stubbs did. He'd likely have to OPS below .550 to be replacement level overall. That's worse than Taveras in 2009.
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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Drew Stubbs had a .610 OPS in 2012 and was a 1 win player. Hamilton should provide more production outside his bat than Stubbs did. He'd likely have to OPS below .550 to be replacement level overall. That's worse than Taveras in 2009.
    Agree, sink or swim with Billy in CF for 3 years...

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    Re: And If Hamilton Isn't Ready.....

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    And that's how I am taking this question. Basically it is asking, "What happens if Billy flames out?", timeline is hardly the point.
    He can't flame out. He's too fast.

    I can't imagine Hamilton to be any worse than Stubbs. If he just OBP's .300 he will be a factor in the lineup.
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