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Thread: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

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    Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Jeremy Kivel wins a runoff vote for the 19th ranking. On to the 20th pick.
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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Amir Garrett. Lefties like that don't grow on trees. Give me his upside here.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Probably on my own here, but Drew Cisco for me.
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    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Mahle, who's every bit the prospect that Kivel is.
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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    I went with Stephens here. I like him as a sleeper pick this season. Same age as Travieso, picked much later, had similar numbers in Dayton this past season.(Travieso had more innings, while Stephens the higher K/9)

    I understand the cases for other players here though too.

    I wish I knew more about Medina, as well as Constante, and the legend of Jonathan Perez.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Constante is the real deal, a lefty at 6-4 215 with a fb that touches the mid 90s, a cutter that is really good, a plus curveball and a developing change up. Needs to work on his control and consistency with his breaking stuff and change. Sometimes throws through his curve flattening its break, change is good at times but it's still inconsistent. In the DSL in 2013, he was dominating. 38 IP 55 Ks 28 hits but 22 walks. Should be in AZL/Billings in 2014, maybe Dayton. If he continues to progress he'll fly up the rankings.

    Medina, wait and see for me...scouts seem to vary on high they are on him. Some say average across the board, some say plus tools. Evidently he's no Puig or Cespedes. Hopefully he's better than Felix Perez.

    Jonahan Perez, not to be confused with the released 3Bman of the same name, is a mystery - he was terrible in the AZL in 2012, then nothing in 2013. I don;t know if he was injured or just going through instructional stuff without competing in the league, or back in DSL? Maybe Doug knows...signed as a 16 y/o, he'll be 19 this summer.
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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    If I didn't get on the Armstrong train, I might be headed to Waldrop, Mahle, Ravin, or Thompson-ville. I don't have much hope or taste for Garrett or Guillion. Don't know when I'd vote for them, maybe late 20's to mid 30's. Sometimes I feel like Garrett just took the money and ran.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Guillon's problem is simply that he is going to run out of time to develop thanks to re-writing his original contract. He has 2 more years and then he is out of options. He's in low A and struggled mightily with his control especially early. Hopefully he makes significant strides this year or the Reds may simply be developing him for someone else to reap the benefits.
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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Nomination for candidacy: Alejandro Chacin, 44 appearances last year at Dayton, all relief. 65 innings / 42 h /33 W /72 K /1.15 WHIP. .181 BA against. This as a guy who turned 20 in June, 13. Compares very favorably to the season Contreras had at Dayton in 2012 while a year and a half older. (50.1 /29 /19 /51/ .158 against)

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Oops. Accidental vote for Muhammad. I need to watch what I'm doing with the arrows.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Voting for Juan Duran soon. I know he's not much of a defender. But a player with the most power in the system who had a nice season deserves top 25 status.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    Nomination for candidacy: Alejandro Chacin, 44 appearances last year at Dayton, all relief. 65 innings / 42 h /33 W /72 K /1.15 WHIP. .181 BA against. This as a guy who turned 20 in June, 13. Compares very favorably to the season Contreras had at Dayton in 2012 while a year and a half older. (50.1 /29 /19 /51/ .158 against)
    Numbers may compare, but the stuff doesn't. I am a big Chacin fan though. Probably the best movement on a fastball that I saw from a Reds minor leaguer this season.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Adding Chacin to the next list, along with Jon Matthews. Also cleaned my master list somewhat, removing a couple players who've been released.
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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Hey Doug, what do you know about Luis Gonzalez? Played in the DOSL last season and posted a 15.67/1 K/BB rate in 48IP.
    Sabermetrics can be boiled down to this simple truism: A batter's goal is to extend the inning. Extend enough innings and you're going to score runs. Extend more innings than your opponent and you're going to score more runs than him.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #20

    Gonzalez is a strikingingly thin lefty (think Guidry like) with a startling grounder/pop up to flyball rate. 71 grounders/pop ups to 39 flies and just 6 line drives. 3 walks in 48 innings with 47 strikeouts. Just 1 home run and 4 doubles allowed. 30 total hits. WHIP 0.769. That is 42 total bases in 48 innings counting walks, HBP and extra base hits. Less than 1 TB per inning!! TBIP less than 1 is really remarkable. A bit old for a DSL prospect at 21 in 2014. I don't know this kid's story, why he isn't already in the states (Visa problems?) but he flat out dominated the DSL. Of course, taking too much from 48 innings in the DSL is not a great idea but I'd love to see this guy in Billings or Dayton this year.
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