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  • Aquino, Aristides OF-R

    4 13.33%
  • Armstrong, Mark P-Az

    2 6.67%
  • Aybar, Manny P-AZL

    0 0%
  • Boyles, Ty P-Az

    0 0%
  • Chacin, Alejandro P-A

    1 3.33%
  • Christiani, Nick P-AAA/ML

    0 0%
  • Cisco, Drew P-A

    4 13.33%
  • Constante, Jacob P-DSL

    8 26.67%
  • Crabbe, Tim P-AAA

    1 3.33%
  • Daal, Carlton SS-R

    0 0%
  • Dennick, Ryan LHP-AAA

    0 0%
  • Diaz, Pedro P-R/A

    0 0%
  • Duran, Juan OF-A+

    3 10.00%
  • Fellhaeur, Josh OF-AAA

    0 0%
  • Freeman, Justin P-AAA/ML

    0 0%
  • Garcia, Kevin OF-R

    4 13.33%
  • Gelalich, Jeff OF-A

    0 0%
  • Gonzalez, Luis P-DSL

    0 0%
  • Guzman, Jose P-R

    0 0%
  • Hayes, Drew P-AA

    0 0%
  • Johnson, Jake P-A+

    0 0%
  • Jones, Chad P-R

    0 0%
  • Klimesh, Ben P-A+

    0 0%
  • LaMarre, Ryan OF -AA/AAA

    4 13.33%
  • Langfield, Dan P -R

    3 10.00%
  • Lohman, Devin 2B-AA

    0 0%
  • Long, Shedric C-Az

    0 0%
  • Mantoni, Joe P-R

    0 0%
  • Manno, Chris P-AA

    0 0%
  • Matthews, Jon OF-A

    0 0%
  • Medina, Reydel OF-Cuba

    1 3.33%
  • Muhammed, El Hajj P - A+

    0 0%
  • O'Brien, Mikey P-AA

    0 0%
  • Partch, Curtis P-AAA/ML

    6 20.00%
  • Pearl, Brian P-AA

    0 0%
  • Peralta, Wandy P-A

    0 0%
  • Rachal, Avain 2B-R

    0 0%
  • Rahier, Tanner 3b-A

    5 16.67%
  • Reynoso, Jonathan OF-R

    0 0%
  • Rodriguez, Henry 2B-AAA

    2 6.67%
  • Romano, Sal P-A

    3 10.00%
  • Rosa, Gabriel OF-R

    3 10.00%
  • Selsky, Steve OF-A+/AA

    0 0%
  • Silva, Juan OF-A+

    0 0%
  • Silverio, Juan 3B-A+/AA

    0 0%
  • Smith, Bryson OF-AA

    0 0%
  • Smith, Josh P-AA

    2 6.67%
  • Soto, Neftali 3B/1B AAA/ML

    1 3.33%
  • Stephens, Jackson P-A

    0 0%
  • Thompson, Cory SS-Az

    1 3.33%
  • Uxa, Logan 1B-Az/A+

    0 0%
  • Vidal, David 3B-A+/AA

    0 0%
  • Villarreal, Pedro P-AAA/ML

    0 0%
  • Vincej, Zach SS-A

    0 0%
  • Walczak, Jamie P-AA

    0 0%
  • Washington, Ty 2B-R

    0 0%
  • Weiss, Zack P-R

    1 3.33%
  • Wright, Daniel P-R

    0 0%
  • Wright, Ryan 2B-OF

    0 0%
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Thread: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

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    Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Ismael Guillon and Tyler Mahle won handily in the last 2 spots. Pitchers have come up with 4 of the last 5 polls. There are still some players, both pitchers and position guys, with great upsides and tools. Lets vote on the next two spots.

    Remember two votes. Review of who has won so far.

    1. Robert Stephenson 20 RHP
    2. Billy Hamilton 23 Cf-Switch
    3. Phillip Ervin 21 Cf-R
    4. Jesse Winker 20 LF-L
    5. Yorman Rodriguez 21 RF
    6. Michael Lorenzen 22 RHP
    7. David Holmberg 22 LHP
    8. Nick Travieso 20 RHP
    9. Seth Mejias-Brean 23 3B-R
    10. Ben Lively 22 RHP
    (Donald Lutz 25 LF-LH AA/ML SPECIAL - technically not a "prospect")
    11. Jon Moscot 22 RHP
    12. Carlos Contreras 23 RHP AA
    13. Tucker Barnhart 23 C-Switch
    14. Chad "Sharky" Rogers 24 RHP
    15. Daniel Corcino 23 RHP
    16. Jose Ortiz 20 C-R
    17. Junior Arias 22 CF-RH
    18. Kevin Franklin 19 3B-RH
    19. Jeremy Kivel 20 RHP
    20. Kyle Waldrop 22 OF-LH
    21. Amir Garrett 22 LHP
    22. Ismael Guillon 22 LHP
    23. Tyler Mahle 19 RHP
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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Still going with Aquino and Rosa. Going with the guys who have star potential over some "could be solid" guys.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Still Partch for me. Sad that Sean Buckley fell so far that he is not even missed as a voting option.
    Last edited by klw; 01-29-2014 at 01:46 PM. Reason: I hate typing on IPads

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Rosa and Chacin. Still like Rosa's athleticism and I like Chacin's numbers and Doug's comment about the liveness of his fastball.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Still Partched for me. Sad that Sean Buckley fell so far that he is not even missed as a voting option.
    Yea, I forgot about Partch in the last vote, but I agree. Decent chance of being a solid reliever. That puts him ahead of the remaining longshots.
    If Partch can improve on his control, he could be a dominating setup guy.
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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Constante and Lamarre
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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Rahier and Thompson for me.
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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    I'm going with Kevin Garcia and Reydel Medina. Garcia performed and the Reds paid a decent amount for Medina.
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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Juan Duran IMO is clearly the best prospect at this point, if only for trade value to the AL as a DH.

    Best power in the organization, had a good year at A+. Put on forty man roster by Reds. Still young.

    One thing he lacks is anonymity. For this poll sometimes it"s better to be unknown with no track record and no known warts. Also Juan has been criticized a lot on RedsZone, so he's not a fashionable pick.

    But i'm going with Juan.
    Last edited by Kc61; 01-29-2014 at 01:06 PM.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Armstrong and Constante. Thompson and Medina and Lamarre are blipping my radar screen.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Juan Duran IMO is clearly the best prospect at this point, if only for trade value to the AL as a DH.

    Best power in the organization, had a good year at A+. Put on forty man roster by Reds. Still young.

    One thing he lacks is anonymity. For this poll sometimes it"s better to be unknown with no track record and no known warts. Also Juan has been criticized a lot on RedsZone, so he's not a fashionable pick.

    But i'm going with Juan.

    +1

    I think Juan Duran will break out in a big way in 2014 as well.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Jonathan Reynoso's stock sure has fallen . . .

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    I am very confused right now. Are people voting for Constante just because of his name recognition? The guy walked 5.1 batters per 9 innings in the Dominican Summer League. If he threw enough innings to qualify, which he didn't, that would have been the 4th worst rate in the entire league. And, he is old for that league.

    I am all for going upside on guys playing in the states, but this was a 19-year-old playing in the Dominican who walked a ton of guys.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I am very confused right now. Are people voting for Constante just because of his name recognition? The guy walked 5.1 batters per 9 innings in the Dominican Summer League. If he threw enough innings to qualify, which he didn't, that would have been the 4th worst rate in the entire league. And, he is old for that league.

    I am all for going upside on guys playing in the states, but this was a 19-year-old playing in the Dominican who walked a ton of guys.
    See, I think that's where it gets kind of iffy going with rates (or percentages) in small sample sizes. We're talking about a total of 22 walks. Over 38.2 innings, a reasonable number would be, say, around 14. So we're gonna dismiss a guy over 8 extra walks in his debut season? And neglect the fact that he struck out 55 in those 38.2 innings? And had a 1.82 ERA? And throws left-handed at 6-foot-4? And was considered a significant signing? I get not voting for him, but I don't get the confusion.
    Last edited by mace; 01-30-2014 at 11:56 PM.

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    Re: Redzone Minor League Prospect Ranking #24 & 25

    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    See, I think that's where it gets kind of iffy going with percentages in small sample sizes. We're talking about a total of 22 walks. Over 38.2 innings, a reasonable number would be, say, around 14. So we're gonna dismiss a guy over 8 extra walks in his debut season? And neglect the fact that he struck out 55 in those 38.2 innings? And had a 1.82 ERA? And throws left-handed at 6-foot-4? And was considered a significant signing? I get not voting for him, but I don't get the confusion.
    Dismiss him, absolutely not. Rank him ahead of guys with considerable upside who performed stateside though? Or rank him ahead of guys who have gotten results at the AA level? I just can't do it. Constante has some stuff, but he isn't Jeremy Kivel or Robert Stephenson or even Amir Garrett. I just can't see ranking him that high when he showed, even in a small sample size, a gigantic wart on his resume.

    I really don't think people understand just how poor a 5.1 BB/9 in the DSL is. That would be something around 7 in the AZL. And it is coming from a guy who was older than most of the guys he faced.
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