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The early favorite: "Wait, it started at six-thirty?"
Their Run-Defense was 5th worst in the NFL.
Their Pass-Rush was 4th worst in the NFL.
Their Pass-Coverage was 20th in the NFL.
Their Special Teams was 3rd worst in the NFL.
Those are four major areas of concern that even a healthy Aaron Rodgers can't overcome. One draft with one free agency period can't begin to get their Defense to respectability. Overall, they aren't as good as Arizona, Kansas City, or San Diego, who did not make my Top-10. New England probably has good low odds, but they aren't in my Top-12, either, and maybe not my Top-15.
The Packers are a mirror image of Atlanta...great Quarterback with one great Wide Receiver and some other good ones, but no Tight End and an Offensive Line with major problems (though much, much better than Atlanta's) and a horrible Defense.
The Packers need at least half a dozen new starters on Defense out of the 11 positions. They are a complete mess. There just isn't any talent there.
Rodgers has had great seasons in the past behind bad Offensive Lines. He has two solid players in Sitton and Lang. Bahktiari played decently for a Rookie O-Lineman. They'll go with him again hoping he'll improve on what he did this season. The 49er's manhandled him after he began coming on at the end of the season. The same is true of Barclay, an undrafted FA from 2012, who came on the second half as a pass-blocker, but who also was manhandled vs the 49er's. He was terrible at run-blocking all year long. Needs to add strength, while also learning technique. Either way, the Packers need to get competition for him for camp. If they lose Evan Dietrich-Smith to Free Agency, they'll have to replace him with a 4th Round pick from 2013. Giving Rodgers a new Center is going backwards.
The Packers were stupid to use a 4th Round pick on RB Johnathan Franklin last season after they had already grabbed Eddie Lacy (this year's Offensive ROY by the AP). With the team so void of talent, they needed help throughout their Defense, especially their Secondary and D-Line. Getting a player who could help both on Special Teams and in the Secondary or D-Line would have been of much more importance. Dozens of players could have helped more. The very next pick in the draft, William Gholston, played well for Tampa Bay the second half of the season as a D-Lineman.
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Packers defense was very disappointing last year but what can you excpect when you subtract an all pro playmaker like Matthews. In addition, no NfL team was decimated with injuries like the Packers were last year. yet despite not having perhaps the best quarterback in the game for half the year, they still made the Playoffs and had the 49ers even until the last play of the game. And as we saw, there is little to choose from between Seattle and san francisco, but a big gap between the best in the AFC and the best in the NFC. Packers need a center and some help at linebacker and maybe in the defensive line. Barring injuries they are not that far away.
In any event the boys in Vegas disagree with you, giving the Packers the 5th best odds to win next years Superbowl. But rather you and I talking smack, lets make it interesting. Send me a PM. How about Green Bay vs Philly, best record, even money. i wait to hear from you. I'm sure we can work something out.
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Yes, the Packers were devastated last season by injuries. WR1, WR2, Slot Receiver, TE, SS, etc., etc. Burnett went from being one of the best Safeties in the NFL and in one season became a liability. I didn't see that coming as I loved Morgan Burnett. You mentioned they need a LB, but of their Defensive areas, LB is their strength, led by Hawk. But, the seriously need a couple of starters on the D-Line along with three new Starters in the Secondary.
That they are in the weakest Division in the NFL helps them tremendously. Chicago is atrocious, Minnesota can't be fixed in one season, even by the great Zimmer, while Detroit is the Cleveland of the NFC. The Packers will win another Division Title, but lose their first round playoff game against whomever they happen to play, as there is just too huge of a disparity between them and the Top-5 teams in the NFC.
I'll pm you tomorrow and we can do something. It's one more way to enjoy the season.
FWIW, I do support the Packers. Always rooting for them when I can. But, first loyalties go to the Bengals, then the Seahawks. But, after that it's probably equal between the Packers, Chargers and Eagles.
It is interesting how one league or conference has tended to have long periods of dominance over the other. After the AFL was formed in 1960, the NFL sneered at the perceived lack of quality of AFL teams, a sneer that seemed to be warranted after the Packers easily won the first two Super Bowls in 1967 and 1968.
That sneer disappeared after the Jets and Chiefs won the next two Super Bowls. From 1969 through 1981, the AFL/SFC won 11 out of 13 Super Bowls. At that time NBC telecast AFC games and had an ad referring the "the best of the NFL: The American Football Conference."
There was a brief period of parity in the early 1980s, as the 49ers and Redskins won Super Bowls, but the Raiders then won in dominating fashion in 1984, and with a draft haul of QBs in the 1983 draft that included Elway and Marino, the AFC looked to be ready to extend its reign.
Instead the NFC then won 13 straight Super Bowls from 1985 through 1997, most of them in blow outs.
Denver came into the 1998 Super Bowl as a big underdog, but the Broncos upset the Packers. The AFC then put together a string of winning 9 out of the next 12 Super Bowls.
The NFC has now won four of the last five Super Bowls.
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Manning didn't have a good day, but it wasn't one of those games where you can say "if not for Peyton, Denver would have won". It's a team sport and the whole team got pounded in all phases. It reminded me of some of those old Colts playoff games where they would run into a team that just looked better across the board (e.g. the Patriots) and you'd wonder how Indy ended up with such a high seed in the first place.
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IMO the key play to the game happened early, Kam Chancellor blew up Thomas on a crossing route that Denver loved to play. It pretty much sent a message to Denver that they had the rub routes covered.
Peyton was terrible, happy feet, bad decisions, looked snake bitten the entire game. If you told me before the game it would have been a blow out I would have though Denver would have been on the winning end. In previous SB blowouts you kinda expected them. Can't say I expected a Manning led Denver team to get destroyed.
Did Fox forget how to coach? Did Denver make any half time adjustments? Did Denver forget how to tackle? What in the world happened?
When NE dominated Peyton years ago they used Ty Law to shut down one side of the field. Seattle did pretty much the same thing with Richard Sherman. What was ironic was when Fox showed the replay of Denver WR's they were all blanketed, no one was open. Sherman was right about Manning's ducks, the deep ball looked pretty poor, and those floaters that he was completing in prior games weren't against Seattle.
Russel Wilson played a great game. Made a ton of key 3rd down plays that put Denver away before half.