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    Capote is one of the greatest acting performances of the past 50 years. I'm genuinely disappointed we won't see another film starring Hoffman. What a profound tragedy and waste of a career at its prime.
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    What a sad and lonely way to go. Such a shame.
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    Heroin is becoming a big problem. When I first started as an attorney, a lot of drug cases I saw involved prescription pain medication like Oxycontin. But then the government started cracking down on it and making it expensive to buy legally and difficult to get. From what I gather, quite a few people get hooked on the prescription meds and then end up switching to heroin when they can't get their meds anymore.
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    Re: Phillip Seymour Hoffman Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Yachtzee View Post
    Heroin is becoming a big problem. When I first started as an attorney, a lot of drug cases I saw involved prescription pain medication like Oxycontin. But then the government started cracking down on it and making it expensive to buy legally and difficult to get. From what I gather, quite a few people get hooked on the prescription meds and then end up switching to heroin when they can't get their meds anymore.
    Makes sense since Oxy is an opioid. I sometimes teach classes in prisons, and I've heard from them how much easier it is to get heroin than most prescription drugs.

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    I have a hard time getting past the fact that Hoffman died with a needle in his arm and a house full of heroine. I feel sorry for his 3 young kids who will have to grow up without a father. Had he not been a movie star would he have been considered a junkie?

    I never was a big fan of his. He was very talented and in may movies that I enjoyed. He was one of those guys who played a large variety of roles and most of the times did them very well.

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    I am still troubled by this. Some of my favorite movies ever had him in them and he was always amazing in his roles...Almost Famous, Talented Mr. Ripley, 25th Hour, Capote. There may not be a better supporting actor of the last 15 years. RIP...just sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Had he not been a movie star would he have been considered a junkie?
    Well, he had been clean for over 20 years, so probably not?
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    It would be nice if this helped us think of drug users as more human rather than defining them by their addiction.

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    I've heard that it's common for people to OD after rehab. They've reset their tolerance level and then relapse with the amount they did before, but there bodies can't handle it.

    Of course you're not going to tell someone leaving rehab to start out small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    I've heard that it's common for people to OD after rehab. They've reset their tolerance level and then relapse with the amount they did before, but there bodies can't handle it.

    Of course you're not going to tell someone leaving rehab to start out small.
    Yes it is common,guitarist Eddy Shaver died the same way, as did some real life people (some call them junkies, others call them friends) that folks I know have had in their lives.

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    Re: Phillip Seymour Hoffman Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I have a hard time getting past the fact that Hoffman died with a needle in his arm and a house full of heroine. I feel sorry for his 3 young kids who will have to grow up without a father. Had he not been a movie star would he have been considered a junkie?
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    By some, sure. By those fortunate not to have dealt with addiction either personally or through a close friend or family member. The person isn't blameless, they've made choices that have led them to discover their addiction but junkie is a harsh word for a dead man. Certainly for someone who battled to beat his addictions. Perhaps "junkie" is a word you use for someone you're trying to reach, hoping, praying they'll realize where they are and hit their "bottom" before they're dead.

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    Re: Phillip Seymour Hoffman Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Razor Shines View Post
    By some, sure. By those fortunate not to have dealt with addiction either personally or through a close friend or family member. The person isn't blameless, they've made choices that have led them to discover their addiction but junkie is a harsh word for a dead man. Certainly for someone who battled to beat his addictions. Perhaps "junkie" is a word you use for someone you're trying to reach, hoping, praying they'll realize where they are and hit their "bottom" before they're dead.
    How about, too, the fact that this was someone who had the presence of mind, the instincts of self-preservation, and the maturity to get sober at 22 (!), and proceed to stay sober for 23 more years. I know many people who worked with Hoffman. He never even took a drink. Straight as an arrrow, vigilantly, intentionally so.

    How about a thought of how much a person must be suffering, what kind of demons he's beholden to, to fall back into that and descend so fast? Especially when everything else seemed to be pretty much in place? He was gifted, he was successful, he was busy with work he loved, he was loved. Yeah, the flip side of that is that it's a terrible waste, an act rightfully incurring anger. But it also means that there are some driving forces at play that not all people are burdened with. Extraordinary forces to drive someone to do this, and extraordinarily difficult to overcome.

    If the definition of "junkie" is someone who takes drugs, sure, this guy was a junkie. If "junkie" means someone who takes drugs just for the hell of it, because they don't feel like overcoming it, because they don't want to be productive members of society, because they're worthless or totally alone, then there are just...probably far fewer "junkies" out there than a lot of people think.
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    I am just very confused by the whole situation. The kids mother, on two different occasions claimed she thought he was high, once seeing him and once talking to him on the phone. Uh, warning sign to intervene here. Then, she was surprised that he didn't show up to get the kids. Uh, someone you thought was high was going to be allowed to come get the kids? Just rubs me the wrong way.

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    I think he made every movie he was in better. Simmons had a podcast this week about him and they were talking about if there were any other actors that could disappear into a role and do as many things as Hoffman. I agreed with their take that their really isn't at the moment and I think that is why he was so well liked. He was talented and unique.

    It is a silly role, but I love him in "Along Came Polly". I think that is a bit of an underrated comedy anyways and it is mostly because of him.

    As for the addiction stuff, I have a really hard time commenting because I just can't relate at all. I can't imagine having those impluses and feelings and not being able or willing to control them. He must have been in a very painful place as most people in that situation are and I guess that makes me feel sad more than anything.


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