Mark Armstrong and Gabe Rosa polled into spots 30 and 31 pretty handily, tied overall.
Allen, James P-A+
Amaral, Beau OF-A
Aybar, Manny P-AZL
Boyles, Ty P-Az
Brattvet, Scott P-R
Chacin, Alejandro P-A
Christiani, Nick P-AAA/ML
Crabbe, Tim P-AAA
Daal, Carlton – SS-R
Dennhardt, Michael RHP-A+
Dennick, Ryan LHP-AAA
Diaz, Pedro P-R/A
Duran, Juan OF-A+
Fellhaeur, Josh OF-AAA
Freeman, Justin P-AAA/ML
Gelalich, Jeff OF-A
Gonzalez, Luis P-DSL
Green, Brodie 2B-AA
Guzman, Jose P-R
Hayes, Drew P-AA
Johnson, Jake P-A+
Jones, Chad P-R
Klimesh, Ben P-A+
LaMarre, Ryan OF -AA/AAA
Langfield, Dan P -R
Lohman, Devin 2B-AA
Long, Shedric C-Az
Mantoni, Joe P-R
Manno, Chris P-AA
Matthews, Jon OF-A
Mcgruder, Jamodrick 2b/LF-A+
Muhammed, El Hajj P - A+
O'Brien, Mikey P-AA
Pearl, Brian P-AA
Peralta, Wandy P-A
Perez, Juan SS-A+
Rachal, Avain 2B-R
Rahier, Tanner 3b-A
Reynoso, Jonathan OF-R
Robles, Tanner P-A+
Rodriguez, Henry 2B-AAA
Romano, Sal P-A
Selsky, Steve OF-A+/AA
Silva, Juan OF-A+
Silverio, Juan 3B-A+/AA
Smith, Bryson OF-AA
Smith, Josh P-AA
Soto, Neftali 3B/1B– AAA/ML
Stephens, Jackson P-A
Thompson, Cory SS-Az
Uxa, Logan 1B-Az/A+
Vidal, David 3B-A+/AA
Villarreal, Pedro P-AAA/ML
Vincej, Zach SS-A
Walczak, Jamie P-AA
Washington, Ty 2B-R
Weiss, Zack P-R
Williamson, Fabian P-AA
Wright, Daniel P-R
Wright, Ryan 2B-OF
Mark Armstrong and Gabe Rosa polled into spots 30 and 31 pretty handily, tied overall.
99% of all numbers only tell 33% of the story so when looking at the numbers remember that numbers is plural...
Lamarre and Stephens
Chacin and Duran.
I have no idea yet.
mace (02-05-2014)
Silva - because OB
Thompson - because my SS itch must ... be ... scratched
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
Jackson Stephens - he's young for his level but I hope he begins to show some results in line with his potential this year. Same for Rosa and Rahier. In Stephens' case he should be getting regular starts and a full season of work for the first time.
99% of all numbers only tell 33% of the story so when looking at the numbers remember that numbers is plural...
I could've gone about 5 ways, but I went Rachal and Rahier. I know the guy has an 80 power tool and bounced back a bit last year, but I'm a bit surprised at the Duran love. He was in the ultimate hitters league last year and still struck out at an enormous rate. Two of my next few selections will be Crabbe and Lamarre, who I view as guys that likely spend several years as mlb RP/bench player, respectively. Duran's ceiling is still higher, but the likelihood of him reaching the majors at this point seems improbably low to me.
(Referring to Jack Hannahan signing with a Korean team)
Since there are no teams on the moon, I guess South Korea's far enough from Cincinnati to satisfy me.
-RichRed
We are on #34 and we have 3 prospects on the 40 man and have yet to be selected, I don't get it. Henry Rodriguez, Soto and LaMarre. Sal Romano and Ryan Wright as well. They have all had success in pro baseball.
Perhaps the majority of the board think that Soto, Rodriguez, and LaMarre have come through the organization and gotten on to the 40 man only because the system was fairly weak at the time--and that a lot of people coming behind them have at least considerably higher upside. It is a bit of a conundrum, as two of these guys have already had ML appearances and I'd say the 3rd, LaMarre (whom I'd rate the highest of the three and who would be in my top 30), is surely going to play in the majors--if for no other reason than his defense. Disappointment factor may be high in relation to these three names in particular.Originally Posted by Red Swagger
M2 (02-05-2014)
I agree on what you're saying! I would be interested to know why these people voting are snubing players that should be ranked much higher then they are! I will leave it at that!!
Maybe they don't believe that they are snubbing those players, but that you are snubbing the guys they are voting for.
What have they done to show they should be ranked higher? Stay around long enough to land on the 40 man roster, which apparently isn't tough to do. none of them can hit and even worse, 2 can't spell defense if you spotted them "defens". JMO
As far as Duran, this age argument is getting old. I realize he could still break out or something, but he's been in pro ball 5 years, and his tools hasn't translated into results. I would think after 5 years your tools should somehow post some results. People miss on prospects all the time, maybe they missed on this one too? Oh, and when he finds his OF glove, make sure someone post a pic of it here so he will know where it is.
Let people vote the way they want to vote, if more people though they deserved to be on the list already they would be there. JMO
Duran had 20 homers in 111 games last year and a .773 OPS. Still at a young age.What have they done to show they should be ranked higher? Stay around long enough to land on the 40 man roster, which apparently isn't tough to do. none of them can hit and even worse, 2 can't spell defense if you spotted them "defens". JMO
As far as Duran, this age argument is getting old. I realize he could still break out or something, but he's been in pro ball 5 years, and his tools hasn't translated into results. I would think after 5 years your tools should somehow post some results. People miss on prospects all the time, maybe they missed on this one too? Oh, and when he finds his OF glove, make sure someone post a pic of it here so he will know where it is.
Let people vote the way they want to vote, if more people though they deserved to be on the list already they would be there. JMO
If those aren't results let's look at the other Reds prospects and compare. Heck, let's look at the Reds major league players other than Votto, Bruce and Choo and compare.
I'd say that as a hitter he definitely has shown results.
Duran and Lutz are on the forty as well.
It's the old debate. How much to value raw potential. How much to value track record. When does a guy become a lesser prospect. What's the impact of one bad season.
The one thing about these polls is that sometimes you are better off having no track record or a very limited one. But baseball is a tough game and the warts will show eventually for most of these guys.
Rodriguez has fallen apart the past two seasons. Soto has OB issues, he gets victimized by RHPs (.645 OPS last season) and he has no glove. The guy has Brandon Larson written all over him. LaMarre doesn't hit for average or power. I just don't see where his skill set merits a future as anything but a journeyman minor leaguer.
Romano has not had success in pro ball - 5.02 ERA, 1.560 WHIP, 1.76 K/BB, 6.9 K/9. You can argue he's been placed above his head and that he has untapped potential, but his performance has been poor. Maybe Wright has an advanceable brand of mediocrity, but his Cali League performance last season was pretty bad.
If you're looking for guys who have performed on this list with some consistency then I'd say Juan Silva and Josh Smith stand head and shoulders above the rest of the remaining field.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
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