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    Anthony Castrovince: Top 10 Rotations & Top 10 Lineups

    Top 10 rotations
    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/...b&ymd=20140203

    1. Nationals
    2. Dodgers
    3. Tigers
    4. Rays
    5. Cardinals
    6. Reds
    7. Red Sox
    8. Braves
    9. Athletics
    10. Rangers

    6. REDS
    The likely free-agent loss of Bronson Arroyo, a seeming lock for 200 innings of slightly above league average output, is a blow. But a full season from Tony Cingrani, who made a fantastic first impression last season (2.92 ERA, 1.099 WHIP in 104 2/3 innings), figures to significantly soften that blow, and Mike Leake looks ready to take on a slightly larger role after posting a 3.37 ERA in 31 starts last season.

    The biggest key is health for Johnny Cueto, whose multiple trips to the disabled list last season (he never made more than three starts in succession) were a major reason for the Reds' disappointing finish. In Mat Latos and Homer Bailey, the Reds have two underrated arms atop a rotation that has ranked in the top five in ERA each of the past two seasons. Though we won't get to see what Aroldis Chapman would look like in the rotation, we can reasonably assume Cincinnati will have a stout starting five.
    Honorable mention: Mariners, Marlins, Giants, Pirates, Phillies, Yankees

    Top 10 lineups
    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/...&vkey=news_mlb

    1. Rangers
    2. Red Sox
    3. Athletics
    4. Angels
    5. Tigers
    6. Cardinals
    7. Indians
    8. Blue Jays
    9. Nationals
    10. Rays

    Honorable mention: Yankees, Orioles, Braves, Mariners, D-backs, Rockies

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    Clearly, the scoring environment in Major League Baseball has regressed a great deal in a short time. Last season, the average number of runs per game was at its lowest point since 1992, the overall batting average was the lowest since 1972, and the strikeout rate reached an all-time high.

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    It's interesting that only two NL clubs made the list for line-ups. Unfortunately one is the Cardinals, who will be the team to beat in our division.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    It's interesting that only two NL clubs made the list for line-ups. Unfortunately one is the Cardinals, who will be the team to beat in our division.


    Here’s a surprising and perhaps scary fact: Jay Bruce is the second best offensive player on the team now.

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    Here’s a surprising and perhaps scary fact: Jay Bruce is the second best offensive player on the team now.
    Should not be surprising. He was 2nd best in a lot of peoples mind from 2009-2012. Not a new situation. 2013 was the outlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RadfordVA View Post
    Should not be surprising. He was 2nd best in a lot of peoples mind from 2009-2012. Not a new situation. 2013 was the outlier.
    A 30 home run guy that will be among the XBH leaders and he's not even to what is considered his prime years...and he's the 2nd best offensive player the Reds have. I'll take that. What concerns me is the dropoff after him. Hopefully the rest of the team steps up.
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    Re: Anthony Castrovince: Top 10 Rotations & Top 10 Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Here’s a surprising and perhaps scary fact: Jay Bruce is the second best offensive player on the team now.
    not scary at all! last year choo was a stud, but the years before bruce was the second best offensive player too...

    like someone mentioned, bruce is not the problem... the problem is that we have multiple avg or below avg player in the lineup.if hamilton is mlb ready and can get on base + ludwick plays more like 2012 and less like 2013 we´ll be a contender

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    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    Here’s a surprising and perhaps scary fact: Jay Bruce is the second best offensive player on the team now.
    I'll have to agree with the others who responded to your statement. Jay Bruce being the second best member of our offensive isn't scary in the least. I'm of the camp that says you need to look at Jay Bruce at season's end, not in the roller coaster ride his seasons often have. I very much like how he is maturing as a ballplayer. I expect him to be a close second to Joey this year. The key will be others stepping up and performing better than they did last year. Jay Bruce is the least of our worries. He will, at some point in his career, have an MVP season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old school 1983 View Post
    A 30 home run guy that will be among the XBH leaders and he's not even to what is considered his prime years...and he's the 2nd best offensive player the Reds have. I'll take that. What concerns me is the dropoff after him. Hopefully the rest of the team steps up.
    What difference does "the prime years" make?
    Here is an inconvenient truth: Bruce will not hit for average or get on base at a high clip even in his prime years.

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    I do not understand your continued assault on Jay Bruce. He is one of the few bright spots on this Reds offense. Is it his fault the rest of the lineup is mediocre? He is a serious power threat on a team that needs it.

    He was tied for 4th in the majors with 74 extra base hits, that is 3 more than 2 time MVP winner Miguel Cabrera for those scoring at home. I am OK with him batting after an on base machine like Votto. I understand his OBP brings down his wRC+ a bit, but that does not mean he is not a very useful player.

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    As for the lists, perhaps I should be more impressed with the Nationals, who have an excellent top three (although I'm not as high on Gio as others), but if I were a Dodgers fan, I'd be outraged at the rotation's number two ranking.

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    Re: Anthony Castrovince: Top 10 Rotations & Top 10 Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    What difference does "the prime years" make?
    Here is an inconvenient truth: Bruce will not hit for average or get on base at a high clip even in his prime years.
    You seem to have an intense dislike for Bruce. I don't get it, really. He's a .260/.330/.500 hitter and despite his sometimes streaky nature in season - he consistently ends with numbers in that range. How in blue blazes is that bad? The drop off after Bruce concerns me but Joey-Jay as 1 & 2 hitters is a strength, not something to bemoan.
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    Re: Anthony Castrovince: Top 10 Rotations & Top 10 Lineups

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    What difference does "the prime years" make?
    Here is an inconvenient truth: Bruce will not hit for average or get on base at a high clip even in his prime years.
    But what he does do well helps make up for his lack of on base skills. His OBP was above league average last season however though. Bruce is far from a problem on this team. Reds 2009-2013 sorted by wRC+

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    Guy hits the ball hard more than the league at a nice clip, not everyone is Ted Williams, some guys are Booby Bonilla 1990 or Reggie Jackson 1975

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    EXTRA BASE HITS >= 20 vs. the league average
    
    EXTRA BASE HITS               YEAR     EBH      EBH    
    1    George Foster            1977       85       38   
    2    Johnny Bench             1970       84       38   
    T3   Dave Parker              1985       80       34   
    T3   Adam Dunn                2004       80       28   
    5    Adam Dunn                2005       77       27   
    6    Joey Votto               2010       75       31   
    T7   Jay Bruce                2013       74       23   
    T7   Jay Bruce                2012       74       25   
    T7   Tony Perez               1970       74       31   
    T10  Lee May                  1969       73       32   
    T10  Johnny Bench             1974       73       32   
    T10  George Foster            1978       73       30   
    13   Joey Votto               2011       72       24   
    T14  Lee May                  1970       70       22   
    T14  Reggie Sanders           1995       70       30   
    T14  Tony Perez               1969       70       27   
    T14  Sean Casey               2004       70       20   
    18   Barry Larkin             1996       69       25   
    19   Johnny Bench             1975       68       32   
    20   Johnny Bench             1977       67       28   
    T21  Chris Sabo               1990       65       22   
    T21  Ken Griffey Jr.          2005       65       22   
    T23  Joey Votto               2009       64       26   
    T23  Chris Sabo               1991       64       23   
    T23  Johnny Bench             1972       64       26   
    T23  Paul O'Neill             1991       64       25   
    T23  Eric Davis               1987       64       26

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Guy hits the ball hard more than the league at a nice clip, not everyone is Ted Williams, some guys are Booby Bonilla 1990
    Booby Bonilla.

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