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    When I learn of a young man who's bored and disconnected despite being given an un-Godly amount of money for a highly specialized skill, my first thought is that there must be something wrong with him.

    Com'on Aroldis get over that socialist garbage, embrace empty riches.
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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    None of us have the slightest clue what it is like to walk in his shoes. There are also a million reasons why he could be sleeping in until 4. The guy works a night job 6 months a year, it's not conducive to a regular sleep schedule.

    I personally have never slept well, function minimally in mornings, generally sleep something like 5 am to 1 pm (although it shifts constantly), and I have been ridiculously successful, have a wife that loves me, and two boys 5 and 3 that think I'm a terrific father. There's a lot of different ways to go through life.

    People have judged me for my sleep schedule many times. But you get judged by living outside of the "norm" in just about any way, so whatever.

    Maybe all the usual idiots at 700wlw can make this article into a big to do this season every time Chapman blows a save, I'm sure plenty of fans will be ready and willing.

    This guy is in better shape than anyone on the team. He's had about as much success in his role as anyone on the team. But people have to find a way to tear him down anyway, it's the Cincinnati way.
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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    Com'on Aroldis get over that socialist garbage, embrace empty riches.
    Plastic pears in the kitchen are one thing, but hollow books in the library?

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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    Sheesh. Haven't you guys heard of "small sample size" and "correlation does not equal causation"?

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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    I really don't care about it as long as he continues to do his job in the late innings.
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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    he did not do the job in the late innings that well

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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    Not as good as Ted Abernathy? Or Wayne Granger? How about Jim Brosnan?
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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    He was worse than Abby but better than Granger and Tom Hall but not as good as Jim Dickson, Jim Duffalo Ryen Duren or Joe Gibbon

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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    None of us have the slightest clue what it is like to walk in his shoes. There are also a million reasons why he could be sleeping in until 4. The guy works a night job 6 months a year, it's not conducive to a regular sleep schedule.

    I personally have never slept well, function minimally in mornings, generally sleep something like 5 am to 1 pm (although it shifts constantly), and I have been ridiculously successful, have a wife that loves me, and two boys 5 and 3 that think I'm a terrific father. There's a lot of different ways to go through life.

    People have judged me for my sleep schedule many times. But you get judged by living outside of the "norm" in just about any way, so whatever.

    Maybe all the usual idiots at 700wlw can make this article into a big to do this season every time Chapman blows a save, I'm sure plenty of fans will be ready and willing.

    This guy is in better shape than anyone on the team. He's had about as much success in his role as anyone on the team. But people have to find a way to tear him down anyway, it's the Cincinnati way.
    I was going to say, no one knows what time he goes to bed.

    My wife would quite happily sleep from 6 AM to 2 PM every day if she could.
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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    Like I said in my first post, I don't care what Chapman does with his time. I don't care what time he wakes up. I don't care whether he touches a baseball once during the off-season.

    However, this isn't just about what time he wakes up. The entire article gives you a detailed explanation why the Reds did not try to make Chapman a starter. Look at someone like Arroyo, and the kind of discipline he has. Does anyone think Chapman would make an effective starter after reading this article?

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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    This was a piece for ESPN the Magazine. It's not really journalism. It's very well written, actually too well written to be taken as 100% fact. Pieces like this are usually full of embellishment, the writer filling in the cracks of what he sees with supposition and psychic soul reading. Pieces like this are supposed to be told from an angle, presenting a theme, and that theme comes from the writer's head, and is not fact. And it's usually a theme that the writer thinks will sell the most magazines.

    I'm guessing a different writer could have witnessed exactly the same Chapman during the off season and written a completely different story. And that's what this is, a very well written story. Not an unbiased newspaper article from a beat writer. It needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    Reads like something from a Hemingway novel.

    I'd like to see him a little more engaged in .... something ... anything.
    Sounds like he wants to play first base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    None of us have the slightest clue what it is like to walk in his shoes. There are also a million reasons why he could be sleeping in until 4. The guy works a night job 6 months a year, it's not conducive to a regular sleep schedule.

    I personally have never slept well, function minimally in mornings, generally sleep something like 5 am to 1 pm (although it shifts constantly), and I have been ridiculously successful, have a wife that loves me, and two boys 5 and 3 that think I'm a terrific father. There's a lot of different ways to go through life.

    People have judged me for my sleep schedule many times. But you get judged by living outside of the "norm" in just about any way, so whatever.

    Maybe all the usual idiots at 700wlw can make this article into a big to do this season every time Chapman blows a save, I'm sure plenty of fans will be ready and willing.

    This guy is in better shape than anyone on the team. He's had about as much success in his role as anyone on the team. But people have to find a way to tear him down anyway, it's the Cincinnati way.
    Dude, it's not a mystery or anything, his wife straight up asked him why he was sleeping so late and he said it was because he wasn't interested enough to wake up. It's spelled out pretty clearly.

    Which hey that's fine if that's what he wants to do if he's doing alright. But the entire gist of the article seems to be how pretty unhappy Aroldis Chapman personally seems to be. Which has nothing to do with baseball, I just hope the guy is okay.
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    He's a cypher, for sure. But I'm not giving up on him. Being the high-leverage 100-mph closer probably is more suited to his temperament, but if a meathead like Latos can be an effective starter, why not?

    I always wondered what the down time is like for someone who is mega-famous, like Ken Griffey Jr. They can't play golf all the time. Do they run everyday errands? Or do they go Elvis in their mansions?

    At least Chapman has his parents and child with him. That has to be a good sign.

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    Re: Chapman Pines For Cuban Life-ESPN Magazine

    I don't think Aroldis is mega famous like Griffey. Baseball fans know him but outside of that he's just a tall guy. Griffey was known by everybody.


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