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    Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

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    Learned today that #reds 3B Jack Hannahan had shoulder surgery after season. Still rehabbing. That one wasn't announced last yr.

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    Hannahan had offseason shoulder surgery. He's rehabbing still. That's why he hasn't played in games. #Reds didn't announce surgery.

    Maybe this explains why he was awful last year?


    Also, maybe this could open a spot that wasn't expected to be open, if he has any setbacks.

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Interesting. I wonder how much this affected him last year.
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    I woke up this morning after having a dream that the Reds re-signed Bailey to a 5-yr $100MM deal. I hope I'm wrong.

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    Is it bad that I quietly hope he lands on the 60 day DL? He still gets paid.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by PepperJack View Post
    Maybe this explains why he was awful last year?
    Maybe. With that mystery solved we can begin to look for reasons he sucked in previous seasons.
    The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. ~ Carlyle

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Is it bad that I quietly hope he lands on the 60 day DL? He still gets paid.
    No. It is not bad.
    Everything is perfect, but there is a lot of room for improvement. --- Shunryu Suzuki-roshi

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by PepperJack View Post
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    https://twitter.com/johnfayman





    Maybe this explains why he was awful last year?


    Also, maybe this could open a spot that wasn't expected to be open, if he has any setbacks.
    Maybe. I wonder if Frazier had some sort of "procedure" for his suckiness? Has he played in the first 2 games?

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    Maybe. With that mystery solved we can begin to look for reasons he sucked in previous seasons.
    Jack Hannahan was bad in 2013 with a fWAR of -0.2.

    Jack Hannahan was just as bad in 2012 with a fWAR of -0.1.

    On the surface, Jack looks like a worse than replacement player. However, one has to consider that Jack did not get more than 318 PAs in either season and only has 162 as a Red.

    2011 is really not too long ago and in only 366 PAs, Jack accumulated 2.3 fWAR. This is supurb for a bench player.

    There is no way Jack should start over Todd Frazier everyday, but I cannot conclude that Jack "sucks" based upon such a small sample in Cincinnati.

    Chris Nelson has been the Reds #2 3B this spring. Chris Nelson has never had a year with better than a -0.3 fWAR. Yes, that is a negative sign before the 0.3. Therefore, according to fangraphs, Chris Nelson has never had a better year than Jack Hannahan. Defense plays a large part in these WAR scores, but be careful what you wish for...

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    I wouldn't buy fWAR with bitcoins.
    The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. ~ Carlyle

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    I wouldn't buy fWAR with bitcoins.
    I just wanted to say this is my new favorite all time Redszone quote.
    This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    I wouldn't buy fWAR with bitcoins.
    What's your beef with fWAR? Do you have a better all-in-one metric to evaluate player performance in a given season?

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Edd Roush View Post
    What's your beef with fWAR? Do you have a better all-in-one metric to evaluate player performance in a given season?
    Why do you need an all in one metric?
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
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    He has also taught me that even when the Reds win it is important to focus on the fact that they could have lost.

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Edd Roush View Post
    Do you have a better all-in-one metric to evaluate player performance in a given season?
    No. And I've made peace with it.
    The widow is gathering nettles for her children's dinner; a perfumed seigneur, delicately lounging in the Oeil de Boeuf, hath an alchemy whereby he will extract the third nettle and call it rent. ~ Carlyle

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    I wouldn't buy fWAR with bitcoins.
    I wouldn't buy bitcoins. Period.

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Why do you need an all in one metric?
    No need for one, just makes for an easy quick glance evaluation of a player.

    I was just using the most convenient argument that one cannot conclude that Jack Hannahan "sucks."

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    Re: Hannahan Had Shoulder Surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I wouldn't buy bitcoins. Period.
    wish I had when they very first started -

    I read an article about a student who wrote a paper about them at the very beginning - he bought a few at that time - forgot about them and found he had a pile of $$$ later
    The older I get - the better I was

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