However what I was getting at is there seems to be a type of pitcher that has success in the minors with underwhelming stuff, including high K numbers despite not having front end stuff. Matt Maloney and David Holmberg both seem to fit this category, although they are both left-handed (which Lively and Stewart are not).
Stewart is a guy who rocketed through the Reds system with great success despite not being a first round pick, yet he fell flat, like Maloney and Holmberg, once he reached the bigs (there is still time for Holmberg as he is still young). I guess what I am asking is do people suspect that Lively is more of a dominant minor league pitcher who may fall flat at the big league level, or does he have the kind of stuff and command that will translate his minor league achievements to the big league level once he gets there in a year or two?
I happen to think that Jon Moscot, for one, falls into the former category. I don't expect big things from him at the major league level, despite what he has been able to accomplish in the minors to date. I'm not sure where I stand yet on Lively- I am cautiously optimistic that he could be like a Mike Leake- although I wouldn't hesitate to include him in a trade to get better big league starters at this point.