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    Re: 4/7/14 - Reds @ Cardinals

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    You know... you are always one of the nicest and most positive people here....even in the most down times. Something I wish i was more of and not so easily frustrated.

    I ma surprised you went at Pena as much as you did today.....in order to defend how bad Cozart has been.

    It is not the results that annoy me as much as his approach...who like Heisey..... never seems to learn or adjust at all.

    Forget about taking pitches.... they both think this is cricket and that only one part of the field exists.

    Pena may not be an original red but he certainly deserves batting in front of Cozart right now.

    Even Sparky only had 1 spot in the order that he never deviated from and that was Pete Rose batting 1st.
    Most likely a very fair point. The drunk comment was simply me trying to lighten the mood in the game thread as it was pretty brutal. But I've watched Pena quite a bit and I'm just far from impressed with the guy. He seems like a really nice guy and I don't see him failing from lack of effort. But if I have a catcher on my team, I want one of two things. I want a solid defender first and foremost. The better the defense, the happier I am. If he's an average defender, then the bat had better be WELL above average. Pena is neither. His defense is some of the worst I've seen in a long time. His technique behind the dish is very poor, his arm is horrendous for a MLB catcher, his pop and throw time is well below average as well. Probably the worst defensive catcher I've seen in a Reds uniform in a LONG time (I didn't witness most of the lost decade, so I'll opt out on those guys). In regards to his hitting, everytime I've seen him he's struck me as a very poor hitter. I'd love to be proven wrong, but if he's going to be the back up catcher, he should excel at something. Either the defense or the hitting for pinch hitting duty. I'd rather we have Barnhart as the backup. He's elite defensively from what I've seen and heard. But I can certainly understand the opinion of wanting to keep him getting regular playing time at Louisville.

    I'll keep an open mind with Pena with regards to his hitting. Hopefully he'll prove me wrong. But the defense...it speaks for itself.

    In regards to Cozy...SS & C are the two positions I look for Defense, defense and more defense. Any offense is gravy IMO. Cozart is by far the best defender we have for short. He's not Concepcion, he's not Larkin...but he's darned good and about as sure handed as they come. The bat, well any player who's mired in a slump can tell you that they'll look horrendous at the plate and that it's not a true indicator of what they can do. Cozart looked very good to me in spring, he looked very good to me the entire second half last season. I honestly believe he's a .700 ops hitter. Coupled with his defense, that's a well above average SS. But it's very hard to see that right now with that slash line staring us all in the face. Should Cozart be moved down in the order? Quite possibly. But I don't do it in the middle of a slump because all that does is kick a man when he's down and shatter an already fragile psyche. Once he's back to normal, if Mesoraco or Pena are hitting better...fine, move him down. But I'm not a proponent of making a change due to a slump. You want to show confidence in the guy and have some faith that he'll snap out of it. Of course there are limits. But 5 games in isnt' close to it in my book.

    As for Heisey...I'd like to see him get some more playing time. I know he's made some substantial mechanical changes in the off season and the results were pretty impressive in spring. But we all know ST numbers are fools gold. But when I factor in the actual swing changes...I'm hopeful.

    The patience part, I'm of a mixed opinion on that front. I'd like to see guys work the count more and get the opposition's pitch counts up. But at the same time, quite often the best pitch you'll see in an AB is the first one. Right now, my biggest gripe isn't that they're swinging at the first pitch...it's that they're not swinging HARD often enough. These little half swings are becoming all too commonplace in the Reds lineup.

    Sorry if I rambled on too long. :O)

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    Re: 4/7/14 - Reds @ Cardinals

    The one handed excuse me and half swings seem to be an epidemic with this club.

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    Re: 4/7/14 - Reds @ Cardinals

    Pick a pitch and let loose for pete's sake!

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    Re: 4/7/14 - Reds @ Cardinals

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    Obviously, but no damage on the scoreboard.
    Whether or not it did damage doesn't eliminate it was a sloppy play. I didn't see another bad throw the entire night so I also am not going to buy the "wet ball" excuse.

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    Re: 4/7/14 - Reds @ Cardinals

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    How exactly did he pay for it?
    I'm still trying to figure out how my post got in the middle of this?

    The older I get - the better I was

    and yes - I hate the Cardinals (Reds fan since 1958)

    I miss Raisor


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