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    Reds Killers

    Not sure this is allowed, but there was a post on the old Red Guard forum talking about players who have hurt the Reds- but the lamentation from a few posters was that most of the players listed killed everyone else too.
    So I went to Baseball reference and found out who had the highest bump to their OPS when playing the Reds versus their overall OPS. Interesting how many of these players ended up on the Reds at one time or another. 4 of the top ten that I remember playing for Cincy.

    (Sorry about the formatting)

    Player Games OPS V Reds Career OPS Difference
    1 Manny Ramirez 29 1.359 0.996 0.363
    2 Kevin Kouzmanoff 25 1.076 0.72 0.356
    3 Matt Lawton 30 1.132 0.785 0.347
    4 Sixto Lezcano 37 1.136 0.799 0.337
    5 Paul Bako 46 0.921 0.623 0.298
    6 Shin-Soo Choo 24 1.139 0.853 0.286
    7 Dante Bichette 69 1.121 0.835 0.286
    8 Brady Clark 62 1.02 0.744 0.276
    9 Lyle Overbay 54 1.045 0.781 0.264
    10 Felipe Lopez 37 0.983 0.724 0.259
    11 Brad Wilkerson 28 1.048 0.79 0.258
    12 Shane Andrews 41 0.976 0.719 0.257
    13 Brian McCann 46 1.076 0.821 0.255
    14 Xavier Nady 62 1.003 0.755 0.248
    15 Andre Thornton 27 1.058 0.811 0.247
    16 Barry Bonnell 36 0.958 0.712 0.246
    17 Matt Stairs 61 1.077 0.832 0.245
    18 Joe Koppe 38 0.891 0.648 0.243
    19 Tom Glavine 51 0.695 0.454 0.241
    20 Ray Durham 45 1.026 0.788 0.238

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    Re: Reds Killers

    I'm not surprised to see Matt Lawton so high on the list. He always seemed to come through with a big hit whenever the Reds played the Indians, and I absolutely hated him for it. I had a friend who was a big Indians fan, and I specifically remember him coming to school one day with a Matt Lawton jersey on. This was in middle school.

    Man, what ever happened to Kouzmanoff? The guy was stuck in San Diego, but he still had some power. I thought he'd be a solid third basemen for quite a while, but I haven't seen anything of him in a few seasons.

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    Re: Reds Killers

    Surprised not to see Yadi on that list.

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    Re: Reds Killers

    The Reds do a pretty good job of killing themselves. Dont give all the credit to players on the other teams

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    Re: Reds Killers

    Quote Originally Posted by Halfway between View Post
    Surprised not to see Yadi on that list.
    Me too. Of course, it seems that based off of that list the top three or so have played less than 30 games against the team, so possibly less statistical variance. I'll be glad not to see Yadi opposite of us until May after this latest series.

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    Re: Reds Killers

    Molina and other assorted Cards players along with a few Pirates, at least in the recent past.

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    Re: Reds Killers

    Growing up, the biggest Reds Killers I remember were Mike Schmidt and Steve Garvey,
    One is in the Hall of Fame, and the other should be in the Hall of Fame.

    ***keep in mind--this wasn't against, Elmer Dessens, Brett Tomko, and some of the assorted stiffs ran out over the past twenty years***

    This done primarily against THE team of the 1970's.... and while the BRM pitching staff does not get any love... their starters, middle relievers, and closers were still pretty effective throughout most of Schmidt's and Garvey's careers.

    Schmidt's numbers against the Reds (Who he pummeled better than ANY OTHER TEAM in the NL from 1972-1989)
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    Garvey's numbers against the Reds
    NAME GAMES AVG HR RUNS RBI OPS
    MIKE SCHMIDT 185 .292 55 133 142 1.010
    STEVE GARVEY 266 .312 41 154 130 .843


    I loved and hated both of these players, much like Molina. They were just great ballplayers to watch and to appreciate.

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    Re: Reds Killers

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Votto View Post
    Growing up, the biggest Reds Killers I remember were Mike Schmidt and Steve Garvey,
    One is in the Hall of Fame, and the other should be in the Hall of Fame.

    ***keep in mind--this wasn't against, Elmer Dessens, Brett Tomko, and some of the assorted stiffs ran out over the past twenty years***

    This done primarily against THE team of the 1970's.... and while the BRM pitching staff does not get any love... their starters, middle relievers, and closers were still pretty effective throughout most of Schmidt's and Garvey's careers.

    Schmidt's numbers against the Reds (Who he pummeled better than ANY OTHER TEAM in the NL from 1972-1989)
    and
    Garvey's numbers against the Reds
    NAME GAMES AVG HR RUNS RBI OPS
    MIKE SCHMIDT 185 .292 55 133 142 1.010
    STEVE GARVEY 266 .312 41 154 130 .843


    I loved and hated both of these players, much like Molina. They were just great ballplayers to watch and to appreciate.
    I remember those players like it was yesterday. I have become old.


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