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    Re: Reds vs. Rays 4-12-2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    I'm on your side but also must mention.....19 games versus the Astros
    It was 15, and the Reds went 10-5. Really not as big of advantage as we remember. It was the Cubs who the 2012 team destroyed.
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    Re: Reds vs. Rays 4-12-2014

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Totally disagree. Stretch of bad play, sure. Lack of effort, no. Gave up, no. It's too easy to point the finger at the Reds players & coaches...fans always want to blame someone instead of just admitting that the opposition just out played them. On those days, the Mets and Pirates were simply better.
    Those wanting to blame Baker for the last week of 2013 have already been disproven by this first 10 games of 2014. Same issues, with and without Baker.
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    Re: Reds vs. Rays 4-12-2014

    Quote Originally Posted by junkhead View Post
    I think you are trying really hard to maintain optimism.

    2012 stats
    Votto: .567 SLG
    Leake: 4.58 ERA, 114 ERA-
    Latos: 3.48 ERA, 87 ERA-
    Bailey: 3.68 ERA, 92 ERA-

    RA
    2012: 588
    2013: 589
    Joey Votto 2012 SLG After ASB : .402

    Homer Bailey fWAR:
    2012: 2.5
    2013: 3.7

    Mat Latos fWAR
    2012: 2.9
    2-13: 4.4

    The Reds have had pretty much the same talent on their roster from 2012 to 2013 to 2014. That talent is worth around 88-93 wins. In 2012, the team was very healthy and caught a lot of breaks, and won 97 games. In 2013, they weren't that healthy, didn't catch that many breaks and won 90. So far the 2014 team hasn't been very healthy or caught any breaks. We'll see how that plays out the rest of the season. But regardless, this team has the talent to win between 88-93 games, just like in 2013 and 2012.
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    Re: Reds vs. Rays 4-12-2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    I'm on your side but also must mention.....19 games versus the Astros
    Everyone else in the division played them too ya know.

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