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    Is it time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckie View Post
    Did you ever play Major League Baseball?

    Did you ever manage in the Majors?

    If not, then you are probably not qualified to ever have an opinion on anything to do with Major League Baseball, correct?
    Baseball and the science of the human body.

    Two peas in a pod?

    Probably not

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    Re: Is it time?

    Im not a doc => hard to judge something I have no idea about
    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein

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    Re: Is it time?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Baseball and the science of the human body.

    Two peas in a pod?

    Probably not
    Have you ever disagreed with a doctor?

    Do you have a medical degree?

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    Is it time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckie View Post
    We're not giving instructions on how to best perform brain surgery. We're discussing whether Tim Kremchek has done a good job in our opinion as the Reds' medical director over the last decade plus. I think the team could do much better.
    But your opinion is based on a limited amount of data and a skill set not able to process the data if we had it all.

    The data is immense in this scenario, immense

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    Re: Is it time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckie View Post
    Who are these players who bypass the medical director of their own MLB team to instead have Tim Kremchek operate on them?
    Scott Rolen, when he played for the Cardinals.
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    Re: Is it time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckie View Post
    Have you ever disagreed with a doctor?

    Do you have a medical degree?
    No I haven't

    I work as a data analyst in the health care industry

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    Re: Is it time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    Scott Rolen, when he played for the Cardinals.
    A player that didn't age well. Not the best example (if in fact true).

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    Re: Is it time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckie View Post
    We're not giving instructions on how to best perform brain surgery. We're discussing whether Tim Kremchek has done a good job in our opinion as the Reds' medical director over the last decade plus. I think the team could do much better.
    Ok. Only regarded as one of the very best in baseball.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ies/index.html

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    Re: Is it time?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    But your opinion is based on a limited amount of data and a skill set not able to process the data if we had it all.

    The data is immense in this scenario, immense
    You're making it sound more complicated than it is, IMO. Not being a doctor, this particular conversation. We have evidence of things like Kremchek giving Ryan Madson a clean bill of health, right before Madson has to miss the entire season. Later Madson is quoted as saying it was an injury he had been playing through since the previous season. That's one of many examples of Kremchek -- in the opinion of some Reds' fans -- falling short of his duties.

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    Re: Is it time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rijo's Ghost View Post
    Ok. Only regarded as one of the very best in baseball.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ies/index.html
    Wow, the media darling who loves doing interviews gets a media guy to say something nice about him. Yep, that settles it.

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    Re: Is it time?

    I don't have a problem with how the doctors handled Latos, I do have a problem with how the Reds handled Latos. They were overly cautious with him, in my opinion. I honestly believe that if they were more aggressive with him off the knee surgery, he's be fine by now. At the very least, he wouldn't be worse off than he is now.
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    Re: Is it time?

    So how does a front office make a decisions about a team doc, considering they ain't doctors. Hey, how do I?

    I'm sure he's a great surgeon but he's got a lousy record as a diagnostician.
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    Re: Is it time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    So how does a front office make a decisions about a team doc, considering they ain't doctors. Hey, how do I?

    I'm sure he's a great surgeon but he's got a lousy record as a diagnostician.
    Believe it or not sometimes the Doctors pays the team to be listed as the team Doctors.

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    Re: Is it time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckie View Post
    A player that didn't age well. Not the best example (if in fact true).
    He won a World Series, two Gold Gloves and made three All-Star appearances after the surgery (if in fact true).

    http://articles.latimes.com/2005/aug...s/sp-bbnotes19
    http://archive.ksdk.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=83997


    Kerry Wood also went to Dr. Kremchek in 2005, and following rehab had four more productive seasons as a big-league reliever, including an All-Star appearance (if in fact true).

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...urgery-red-sox

    Dr. Timothy Kremchek is a well-respected member of the medical community, whether you like it or not.

    Next time think twice before challenging someone's integrity (both Dr. Kremchek's and mine). I didn't appreciate your jab that I may have been less than truthful with my response to your question. I'm not going to make crap up to make you look bad. You do a good enough job of that on your own.
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    Re: Is it time?

    The problem isn't the doctor. The problem is all the happy talk in the media about injured players leading ultimately to disappointment.

    It's probably not just the Reds. I don't listen anymore when teams say two weeks, or four weeks or six weeks or whatever. I take it all as spin.

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