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    Sooooo... Pineda

    http://m.mlb.com/news/2014/04/23/731...stance-on-neck

    Just amazed that it was pretty blatantly obvious he used a substance last time against the sox, and he went for it again... Sox were on the lookout tonight! Girardi's reaction is humorous to me. 10 games?

    What's your view on this?
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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    I donīt get it.. you cheated, they caught you, you lied to the media, you got away with it on the field and you do the same few days later against the same team? that is just stupid imo
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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    Ban him for life, along with the rest of the team.
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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    YES announcer thinks the rule is not fair.

    I'm sorry but that was some sweet comeuppance.

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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    The Yankees radio announcers Sterling and Walden are so bad, I have no idea how anybody enjoys listening to them. They make Marty look professional.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    Maybe next time he'll just bring the pine tar to the mound with him instead of putting it on himself?


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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    Everything I am reading is that this is very widespread, pitchers on every team do it, and the only reason this was an issue was that he was blatant about it.

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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    Honestly, if you're going to do this, don't put it in the most obvious and visible place. Especially against a team that has already questioned your use of a foreign substance. That's really just common sense.

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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    Ban him for life, along with the rest of the team.
    I'd be satisfied with just banning his team from television.

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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    Quote Originally Posted by membengal View Post
    Everything I am reading is that this is very widespread, pitchers on every team do it, and the only reason this was an issue was that he was blatant about it.
    Pretty much. Grip is uber important for command. Frankly, most hitters probably pray that Chapman has a little pine tar hidden somewhere on his person. The problem with Pineda on the other hand was that if you got a hit off of him, the ump could call you out for too much pine tar on your bat.
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    Personally, I believe that doctoring of the ball should be permitted. Since it's against the rules now, players like Pineda who get caught should face the consequences of their actions. But I wouldn't have a problem if they legalized it.
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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    What happened to the days of a rosin bag? Can pitchers still use that? If so why does he need pine tar?

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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    What happened to the days of a rosin bag? Can pitchers still use that? If so why does he need pine tar?
    Yes, they still have the rosin bag, but isn't rosin the exact opposite of what you need to get a grip when it's cold and dry out?
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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    Personally, I believe that doctoring of the ball should be permitted. Since it's against the rules now, players like Pineda who get caught should face the consequences of their actions. But I wouldn't have a problem if they legalized it.
    If you believe that it's ok for a pitcher to use things other than god given abilities then surely you believe that hitters should be afforded the same opportunities (PEDs)with no penalties?
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    Re: Sooooo... Pineda

    Quote Originally Posted by Hubba View Post
    If you believe that it's ok for a pitcher to use things other than god given abilities then surely you believe that hitters should be afforded the same opportunities (PEDs)with no penalties?
    What difference is there between a spitball and a forkball, splitter, palmball, good changeup? Nothing. The spitball ban was put into place for two reasons: 1. Ray Chapman was hit and killed by an alleged spitball by Carl Mays. 2. They wanted to increase offense. Well, they have helmets now and there is offense a plenty.

    One difference between juicing and doctoring the ball is that when you doctor the ball, you don't put your own physical health in danger as you do by juicing. Also doctoring the ball is not against the law.
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