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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Over/under on posts until someone brings up catcher-ERA? I'll take the under on 25.
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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jones1 View Post
    Wow the two just work very well together with great chemistry. Love Mes's bat but Cueto looked very uncomfortable with him catching in his last outing.
    They did look very much in synch. I'm sure Price noticed it.

    I'm liking the Pena signing more and more.
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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    Quote Originally Posted by kpresidente View Post
    I do love how everybody around here was cold on Cueto and hot on Homer Bailey before the season started. Three games but Johnny's been dominant while Homer's getting rocked.
    I was skeptical on Cuetos health moreso than this performance when healthy. I think Homer will be better than he has his first few starts but small sample or no Cueto has looked better.

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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    Price said in the interview they have good chemistry. If you watched cuetos body language his last outing it was not good and mes I believe has only caught him in like 2 or 3 games. I can pretty much see this being an every start tandem. Plus ive never seen cueto use his cutter 9r curve ball as much as he did today,not sure if thats pena but he was brilliant.

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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    The people that do agree with the OP do realize that in Cueto's start with Mesoraco behind the plate he gave up 2 runs in 7 innings right? He did have 4 walks, but that was the game where eveybody was complaining about how bad the strikezone was.

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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    Setting aside the obligatory catcher ERA references that will be brought up at some point, is it really that outlandish to think that some guys just work better together than others? I don't see what's so crazy about that. If you've ever worked anywhere at all, you know this to be true. There are some people you're just better at your job when you're working with/around.

    I think Homer Bailey's problems so far this year are probably mostly attributed to randomness/sample size. However, I don't think it's crazy to think maybe he simply was a better pitcher with Ryan Hanigan around than other catchers, nor is it out of the realm of possibility that Cueto will work better with Pena.

    These things are possible, folks. Open your mind a bit. Sure, there could be other reasons. It might not even be related. Heck, I myself think it's probably just randomness at this point. But it's not an absurd topic.
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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Oh God not this again.
    Not this again? Really? Its a legitimate question fortybore and one im pretty positive we're gonna see happen. Move along now if you dont like the thread buddy and no this has nothing do with catching era. I want mes out there as much as possible the guy can hit but for the early part of the season I think you have to stick with this tandem.

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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    Cueto has been great this year no matter who is catching him in that big ole 3 game sample size, buddy.
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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    The thought that a catcher and a pitcher have a unique working relationship is as old as the game itself, that said I recall Price stating that no one would have a "personal catcher" so I doubt it will happen as much as I doubt it should happen at this time, Cueto was and is a known commodity, Pena has been a Red for about ten minutes, they had a good game today and yes it was darn good. But Cueto was already good before he threw to Pena, therefore I'll lean towards that fact rather than Pena is teh reason cueto was good today.

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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    I was a catcher and I always thought the whole pitcher/catcher relationship was one of those folklore things that doesn't really matter. The catcher's really just sitting holding up his glove. How does that matter? I guess a pitcher would be the only one to really know.

    Besides it always seemed like a way for everybody to blame me somehow if the pitcher had a bad game.

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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Cueto has been great this year no matter who is catching him in that big ole 3 game sample size, buddy.
    Have you watched his starts? Zero walks today and worked both sides of the plate better than ive ever seen him. The cutter is really working well and hes using much more this yr. Price said they have great chemistry and that pena worked both sides of the plate very well. Nobody wanted to see mesoracos bar in the lineup vs a good lefty more than I but ive watched cueto pitch and it was the most well rounded game ive ever seen as brutus said you should open your mind a little bit cause I think youre gonna see this for awhile.

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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    If Cueto asks for Pena, I can see Price trying to set him with Pena more often.
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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    The Reds should use Pena EVERY inning of EVERY game.

    I don't care if Pena is wearing down.... can't afford to take a 2.12 ERA guy out of a game.

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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jones1 View Post
    Have you watched his starts? Zero walks today and worked both sides of the plate better than ive ever seen him. The cutter is really working well and hes using much more this yr. Price said they have great chemistry and that pena worked both sides of the plate very well. Nobody wanted to see mesoracos bar in the lineup vs a good lefty more than I but ive watched cueto pitch and it was the most well rounded game ive ever seen as brutus said you should open your mind a little bit cause I think youre gonna see this for awhile.
    Cueto had 3 walks the last time Pena caught him, so it's not like the 4 last time are because Mesoraco was back there.

    As to how Cueto's pitches were working today, sometimes the pitcher's stuff just shows up more on certain days.

    You always here pitchers say " I just didn't have it today" or "my stuff wasn't working today", it happens.

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    Re: Pena should be Cueto primary catcher.

    Also noticed the way pena would go to one leg so he could get down low for the curveball and change up in the dirt. Have not seen mes do that with cueto. Listen this is not a bash on Mes the guy could and may well be the best catcher the reds have had since bench but after watching pena catch cueto today it looked so much different than when mes caught him. Can mes pick up the things cueto like that pena did? Yes im positive he can but that might take some time and I see this tandem being the norm for a bit.


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