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    Enough of Zach Cozart?

    While I try to stay positive, it seems the ship has sailed on the Reds anemic hitting shortstop. We spent far too many seasons watching and waiting on the whiffing Drew Stubbs to turn it around to not become a bit sick to our stomachs watching another bad movie in Cozart. The man is 28 and he is what he is. A non-hitting shortstop on a team with 3 consistent hitters. Moving Hamilton to short and placing Heisey in CF would provide some offense that this team lacks.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Quote Originally Posted by bullseye View Post
    While I try to stay positive, it seems the ship has sailed on the Reds anemic hitting shortstop. We spent far too many seasons watching and waiting on the whiffing Drew Stubbs to turn it around to not become a bit sick to our stomachs watching another bad movie in Cozart. The man is 28 and he is what he is. A non-hitting shortstop on a team with 3 consistent hitters. Moving Hamilton to short and placing Heisey in CF would provide some offense that this team lacks.
    Hamilton is not a SS, that ship has truly sailed.

    A week of BHam at SS for the Reds, and you'd be begging for Cozart again.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    I doubt I would ever be begging for a return of Cozart.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Quote Originally Posted by bullseye View Post
    I doubt I would ever be begging for a return of Cozart.
    How about if you had a SS who made 35-40 errors a year? Cozart has had 14 each of the last two years.

    I'd also like an upgrade offensively from the SS position, but I don't think BHam is the answer.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    How about if you had a SS who made 35-40 errors a year? Cozart has had 14 each of the last two years.

    I'd also like an upgrade offensively from the SS position, but I don't think BHam is the answer.
    You act as if Cozart is a Gold Glove shortstop, which he is not. If this team had a 1 through 6 line up of proven hitters, then maybe we could afford Cozart batting his weight. We do not have that however, but we have little options aside from Hamilton.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Quote Originally Posted by bullseye View Post
    You act as if Cozart is a Gold Glove shortstop, which he is not. If this team had a 1 through 6 line up of proven hitters, then maybe we could afford Cozart batting his weight. We do not have that however, but we have little options aside from Hamilton.
    So benching Cozart and starting BHam at short and putting Heisey in center puts a proven hitter in our lineup? Hamilton is even worse than Cozart is, and Heisey hasn't proven he's an every day player. Sure, we'd all like an upgrade at short with the bat. So would 90-95% of other MLB teams, however.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Quote Originally Posted by bullseye View Post
    You act as if Cozart is a Gold Glove shortstop, which he is not. If this team had a 1 through 6 line up of proven hitters, then maybe we could afford Cozart batting his weight. We do not have that however, but we have little options aside from Hamilton.
    Strawman. I never said Cozart was GG, it's not black or white, there are shades of grey. But Cozart is a major league SS. No way BHam can play the position.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    How about if you had a SS who made 35-40 errors a year? Cozart has had 14 each of the last two years.

    I'd also like an upgrade offensively from the SS position, but I don't think BHam is the answer.
    What Always Red said. Hamilton is a supreme liability at SS, the Reds organization had him stuck in Bakersfield (high 'A') trying to get him to become a SS. That experiment has ended and rightly so. JMHO

    Cozart is what he is, an above average fielder and a below average hitter. The Reds can thrive with him in the lineup but as stated earlier, others have got to start hitting. BH will figure out MLB pitching sooner rather than later and Bruce and Frazier will not be hitting at the Mendoza line all season. Chillax and step away from the ledge - Cozart isn't Larkin but there are a LOT worse options out there.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Quote Originally Posted by NCCardfan View Post
    What Always Red said. Hamilton is a supreme liability at SS, the Reds organization had him stuck in Bakersfield (high 'A') trying to get him to become a SS. That experiment has ended and rightly so. JMHO

    Cozart is what he is, an above average fielder and a below average hitter. The Reds can thrive with him in the lineup but as stated earlier, others have got to start hitting. BH will figure out MLB pitching sooner rather than later and Bruce and Frazier will not be hitting at the Mendoza line all season. Chillax and step away from the ledge - Cozart isn't Larkin but there are a LOT worse options out there.
    Explain to me how you can do worse than a .150 hitting shortstop?

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    I don't want Hamilton's legs anywhere near a runner sliding to breakup a double play. Cozart isn't the answer at short but neither is Billy.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds1869 View Post
    I don't want Hamilton's legs anywhere near a runner sliding to breakup a double play.
    This. After seeing his legs in person last season, I came away feeling certain that my arms are thicker than his legs. And I don't have especially thick arms.

    Those legs of his need to be kept far away from collisions on the basepaths.
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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    There are other options besides Hamilton, who, I agree, is in the OF for good.

    If your organization doesn't have a single other guy who can field the ball well at SS and hit better than a typical starting pitcher, that's a bad sign.
    Rounding third and heading for home...

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Simple - Mike Leake plays short and bats 7th when he's not pitching.
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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    I think people lose track of the fact there just are not that many great SS out there right now and I mean throughout all of baseball. Cozart is more than solid defensively and he'll get the bat going at some point. If there was an absolute upgrade out there of course I'd love to upgrade SS but when I look around the league I think we could be doing much worse than Cozart.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Pete Kozma is available, I heard
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