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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

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    Cabrera posted a WAR under 2 last year and his defense is declining. Giving up resources to replace Cozart with Cabrera is a step back.
    He's only 28. I'd venture the bat comes back around. I agree that the defense would take something of a hit.

    One more argument for targeting Didi, IMO.
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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Quote Originally Posted by CySeymour View Post
    Cabrera posted a WAR under 2 last year and his defense is declining. Giving up resources to replace Cozart with Cabrera is a step back.
    Most likely true. Certainly true about his defense, but it's still acceptable IMO. The question is his bat. Considering how much he's owed...I'd pass. But I STILL inquire with the Indians about dealing for one of their SS farm-hands. They've got an over-abundance and almost certainly willing to deal.
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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

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    When Davey came up he couldn't hit his way out of a wet bag. He became a decent hitter and I think it as due to the guys around him on that great team.

    I said he was a terrible hitter when he came up (70-72).

    He became a very good hitter because Big Klu worked on him every day. Him and Cesar were his special projects.

    Plus he bulked up for 150 to at least 170 by eating more food here in the states than he was in Venezuela. He was only 20 when he came up so he filled out.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Alex Gonzalez released by Tigers today. Option?
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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

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    Alex Gonzalez released by Tigers today. Option?
    No!!!!!!!!
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    Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    I guess I'm one of the only ones that are fine w/ a mostly all-glove stud of a SS who can occasionally provide some pop out of the 8-hole.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

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    Alex Gonzalez released by Tigers today. Option?
    If the Reds DFA's Cozart right now, the Tigers would be the first team calling the Reds.
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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    It seems like guys always have a break out game right after these types of threads are started. I hope that was the intention.
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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Shocked that the name "Stephen Drew" has not been mentioned at all in this thread. I was never particularly high on him, but if June rolls around and the draft pick comp disappears, do the Reds even give him a sideways glance? Or is it a foregone conclusion that Detroit swoops in?

    Drew hitting at the top of the order could enable Price to move Hamilton down to the 8 spot, and give us a fantastic bench piece in Cozart. Is it even worth entertaining? It's not as if there's anyone waiting in the wings for the future.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Cozart has gone from I-11 to I-53 today.

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    Nice game for Cozart.
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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    OMG, it's almost like players will eventually regress/ingress to their level given a larger sample size.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    The good field no hit shortstop, as a type, is as old as the hills. It's a very common type of player and whether the guy is a regular depends on the team, its philosophy, etc.

    In Cozart's case, he doesn't exactly fit the bill because he has good power. Usually a good field no hit shortstop is more of a slap hitter.

    The problem with Cozart has been his inability to come up with a reasonable OBP. The Reds decided to keep him this year and hopefully he can get his OBP at least to .300 or a bit higher. If he can't, it's a big minus.

    One thing I haven't seen with this new hitting coach is any indication that patience is being emphasized with guys like Cozart and Heisey. Bruce on the other hand, has shown more patience this year.

    At this stage, since Zack started poorly at the plate, we're probably in for a few more good hitting days, like today. He isn't this bad, so he'll catch up to the norm. Just wish the norm got him on base a bit more.
    Last edited by Kc61; 04-20-2014 at 08:46 PM.

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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Quote Originally Posted by [deleted] View Post
    Shocked that the name "Stephen Drew" has not been mentioned at all in this thread. I was never particularly high on him, but if June rolls around and the draft pick comp disappears, do the Reds even give him a sideways glance? Or is it a foregone conclusion that Detroit swoops in?

    Drew hitting at the top of the order could enable Price to move Hamilton down to the 8 spot, and give us a fantastic bench piece in Cozart. Is it even worth entertaining? It's not as if there's anyone waiting in the wings for the future.
    I think it is assumed his cost will be the first hurdle -- his draft pick (at this time) is the second hurdle and the stats that say he isn't really much of an improvement over status quo is the third hurdle -- and lastly -- his health
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    Re: Enough of Zach Cozart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
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    The problem with Cozart has been his inability to come up with a reasonable OBP. The Reds decided to keep him this year and hopefully he can get his OBP at least to .300 or a bit higher. If he can't, it's a big minus.
    Actually, it would be a "big average".


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