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    What is your Greatest Team (of people you saw) + line-up, bench, rotation, relievers

    Bored this afternoon--so I thought I would put together my greatest team--of when I actually started to appreciate baseball (1980ish).
    Even though I was born in 1971-- I do not remember much of the BRM--other than clips...

    So... I am making the greatest team... their line-up/rotation/and the bench players.

    SO--
    LINE-UP
    CF--Rickey Henderson (I know...cheating, but I wanted Bonds and Griffey in the line-up! Plus, he did play 400+ games there!)
    2B--Roberto Alomar
    LF--Barry Bonds
    DH--Manny Ramirez
    1B--Frank Thomas
    RF--Ken Griffey Jr.
    3B--Mike Schmidt
    C--Ivan Rodriguez
    SS-- Derek Jeter

    BENCH
    SS/3B -- Alex Rodriguez (Right)
    OF --Tony Gwynn (Left)
    1B -- Eddie Murray(Switch)
    C--Mike Piazza (Right)
    2B--Ryne Sandberg(Right)

    STARTERS
    RH-Greg Maddux
    RH-Pedro Martinez
    RH-Roger Clemens
    LH-Steve Carlton
    LH-Randy Johnson

    RELIVERS
    Long -- John Smoltz
    Long -- Dennis Eckersley
    Lefty-Specialist--John Franco
    Lefty Specialist--Aroldis Chapman
    7th/8th Set-up--Trevor Hoffman
    7th/8th Set-up--Billy Wagner
    Closer--Mariano Rivera

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    Pujols>>>>>>Thomas. Like the rest of it though

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    I"m about the same age as Don, so I'm sure my line ups will include some overlap.

    batting lineup

    1. Rickey-LF
    2. Ryne Sandberg-2B
    3. Albert Pujols-1B
    4. Barry Bonds-RF
    5. Manny Ramirez-DH
    6. Chipper Jones-3B
    7. Griffey Jr.-CF
    8. Jeter-SS
    9. Mike Piazza-C

    Pitching Rotation

    1.Greg Maddux
    2.Randy Johnson
    3.Clemons
    4.Pedro Martinez
    5.Steve Carlton

    Bullpen:
    Lee Smith
    Bruce Sutter
    Trevor Hoffman
    Chapman
    Mariano Rivera
    Dennis Eckersley

    Bench players:
    AROD
    TonyGwynn (can't believe I'm putting him on the bench)
    Pudge Rodriquez
    Eric Davis
    Paul Molitor
    Lou Whitaker
    Cal Ripken
    Ozzie Smith

    This is just too hard to pinpoint. I'm sure I've left out some brilliant players, but these come to mind right away.

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    Since I'm a bit older than Don I'll concentrate somewhat on earlier players that I saw still giving some notice to newer guys - as much to be a bit different as anything.

    batting lineup

    1. Rickey Henderson-LF
    2. ARod-SS
    3. Willie Mays-CF
    4. Barry Bonds-RF
    5. Frank Robinson-DH
    6. Willie McCovey-1B
    7. Mike Schmidt-3B
    8. Pete Rose-2B
    9. Johnny Bench-C

    Pitching Rotation

    1.Sandy Koufax
    2.Tom Seaver
    3.Juan Marichal
    4.Roger Clemens
    5.Steve Carlton

    Bullpen:
    John Franco
    Bruce Sutter
    Mariano Rivera
    Dennis Eckersley

    Bench players:
    George Brett
    Roberto Clemente
    Pudge Rodriquez
    Billy Williams
    Ernie Banks
    Bill Madlock
    Ozzie Smith

    25 total
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    I went back and forth on Boggs, Brett, and Smith--for sure.
    I am honestly surprised that Morgan did not make the team at all, Jake.

    when I have made up my all-time teams.. I always think Rose would be the PERFECT utility player off of the bench. Three infield positions, and the corner outfield slots--plus a switch hitter... I cannot think of anyone better to come off of the bench and to spell Ruth, Cobb, Gehrig, Hornsby, Schmidt a day off every now and then!

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    Re: What is your Greatest Team (of people you saw) + line-up, bench, rotation, reliev

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Votto View Post
    I went back and forth on Boggs, Brett, and Smith--for sure.
    I am honestly surprised that Morgan did not make the team at all, Jake.
    <sheepish> That's because I forgot all about him!!!! How the heck do you forget Joe Morgan? I'd make Joe the 2nd sacker and put Rose on the bench as the super sub, bumping Madlock
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    Jackie Robinson. If you think Hamilton causes havoc for the defense you should have seen Robinson. As a youngster I saw him at Crosley Field three times and each time he got caught(?) in a rundown and ended up at the furthest base.

    Stan Musial was scary good and played the game perfectly in every way. No question he was "The Man."

    A guy who some will respond to with "huh" was Eddie Matthews. He hit 450 foot homers with just his wrists.

    Although he wasn't considered in the top tier of players, catcher Walker Cooper could really hit. He drove a ball up around his eyes on a line over the centerfield wall at Crosley Field. The ball was on the rise as it left the yard and I mean that. I remember looking around to see the crowd reaction and the silence was deafening but later people talked about it for the next week.

    Ted Kluzsewski was not just a power man but an overall high average hitter as well. Look up his stats on the number of K's.

    And Sandy Koufax - the greatest.

    I'll stop boring you all. Thanks to the thread starter for allowing me to reminisce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demas863 View Post
    Jackie Robinson. If you think Hamilton causes havoc for the defense you should have seen Robinson. As a youngster I saw him at Crosley Field three times and each time he got caught(?) in a rundown and ended up at the furthest base.

    Stan Musial was scary good and played the game perfectly in every way. No question he was "The Man."

    A guy who some will respond to with "huh" was Eddie Matthews. He hit 450 foot homers with just his wrists.

    Although he wasn't considered in the top tier of players, catcher Walker Cooper could really hit. He drove a ball up around his eyes on a line over the centerfield wall at Crosley Field. The ball was on the rise as it left the yard and I mean that. I remember looking around to see the crowd reaction and the silence was deafening but later people talked about it for the next week.

    Ted Kluzsewski was not just a power man but an overall high average hitter as well. Look up his stats on the number of K's.

    And Sandy Koufax - the greatest.

    I'll stop boring you all. Thanks to the thread starter for allowing me to reminisce.
    Not boring at all. I think Mathews is a forgotten player. If he had played in NY he would be the greatest third baseman ever, I think he is 2nd behind Schmidt.

    How good was Spahn? My grandfather played against him and Paige and he always talked glowingly about them! They were some of our best conversations.

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    don't forget about Mickey Mantle from that era. Maybe the best speed/power combo ever. He was probably faster on the bases than anyone--ever-including Billy Hamilton.

    That's also a good point about Matthews as he was probably obscured by playing for the Braves in that era. I also didn't realize Big Klu was such a good all around hitter. A great contact hitter to go along with his overall strength
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    Re: What is your Greatest Team (of people you saw) + line-up, bench, rotation, reliev

    Quote Originally Posted by demas863 View Post
    Jackie Robinson. If you think Hamilton causes havoc for the defense you should have seen Robinson. As a youngster I saw him at Crosley Field three times and each time he got caught(?) in a rundown and ended up at the furthest base.

    Stan Musial was scary good and played the game perfectly in every way. No question he was "The Man."

    A guy who some will respond to with "huh" was Eddie Matthews. He hit 450 foot homers with just his wrists.

    Although he wasn't considered in the top tier of players, catcher Walker Cooper could really hit. He drove a ball up around his eyes on a line over the centerfield wall at Crosley Field. The ball was on the rise as it left the yard and I mean that. I remember looking around to see the crowd reaction and the silence was deafening but later people talked about it for the next week.

    Ted Kluzsewski was not just a power man but an overall high average hitter as well. Look up his stats on the number of K's.

    And Sandy Koufax - the greatest.

    I'll stop boring you all. Thanks to the thread starter for allowing me to reminisce.
    Great post. I remember all those guys but mostly at the end of their career (except for Koufax & Matthews). Since the thread was about who you've seen I left out Klu, Jackie, & Williams, Musial. I also left off Mantle, Aaron, Yaz & Newcombe which just shows how many great players there have been once you've seen a half century of baseball. You always go "Oh yeah! I forgot ____" and then think wow, he was even better than the others guys....I think.
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    Re: What is your Greatest Team (of people you saw) + line-up, bench, rotation, reliev

    RF - Trout
    1B - Pujols
    SS - ARod
    LF - Bonds
    DH - Manny
    3B - Beltre
    C - Piazza
    2B - Cano
    CF - Andruw Jones

    SP - Pedro
    SP - Maddux
    SP - Unit
    SP - Rocket
    SP - Smoltz

    RP - Kimbrel
    RP - Rivera
    RP - Chapman
    RP - Hoffman
    RP - Wagner?
    RP - Schilling?

    B - Votto
    B - Ripken
    B - Cabrera
    B - Griffey
    B - Chipper
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    A lot of my picks are from before the 1970's, but in my eyes I have yet to see thier equal in today's players.

    Lf Stan Musial
    CF Willie Mays
    RF Roberto Clemente
    3B Mike Schmidt
    SS Dave Concepcion
    2B Bill Mazeroski
    1B Ted Klusewski ( If not for Back problems could have been a HOF)
    C Johnny Bench

    ON the BENCB:
    Jerry Lynch OF
    Smoky Burgess C
    Jeff Bagwell INF
    Ozzi Smith INF
    Bernie Carbo OF
    Larry Bowa INf

    SP Tom Seaver
    SP Warren Spahn
    SP Robin Roberts
    SP Bob Gibson
    SP Sandy Koufax

    RP John Franco
    RP Bruce Sutter
    RP Rollie Fingers
    RP A. Chapman
    RP Hoyt Willhelm
    RP Don Neucombe
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    Re: What is your Greatest Team (of people you saw) + line-up, bench, rotation, reliev

    Since this thread is on players you have actually SEEN play, here goes:

    Lf Stan Musial
    CF Willie Mays
    RF Roberto Clemente
    3B Dick Allen
    SS Ozzie Smith
    2B Joe Morgan
    1B Albert Pujols
    C Johnny Bench

    ON the BENCB:
    Lou Brock OF
    Yadier Molina C
    Jeff Bagwell INF
    Ernie Banks INF
    Bo Jackson OF (would have been HoF in two professional sports)
    Larry Bowa INF

    SP Randy Johnson
    SP John Smoltz
    SP Nolan Ryan (only saw him ONCE, but that counts)
    SP Bob Gibson
    SP Sandy Koufax

    RP John Franco
    RP Bruce Sutter
    RP Rollie Fingers
    RP Lee Smith
    RP Adam Wainwright (his rookie season when he closed for the Cards)
    RP Kent Tekulve
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    Quote Originally Posted by PERHitKing View Post
    A lot of my picks are from before the 1970's, but in my eyes I have yet to see thier equal in today's players.

    Lf Stan Musial
    CF Willie Mays
    RF Roberto Clemente
    3B Mike Schmidt
    SS Dave Concepcion
    2B Bill Mazeroski
    1B Ted Klusewski ( If not for Back problems could have been a HOF)
    C Johnny Bench

    ON the BENCB:
    Jerry Lynch OF
    Smoky Burgess C
    Jeff Bagwell INF
    Ozzi Smith INF
    Bernie Carbo OF
    Larry Bowa INf

    SP Tom Seaver
    SP Warren Spahn
    SP Robin Roberts
    SP Bob Gibson
    SP Sandy Koufax

    RP John Franco
    RP Bruce Sutter
    RP Rollie Fingers
    RP A. Chapman
    RP Hoyt Willhelm
    RP Don Neucombe
    Carbo? Odd selection or are you basing it just on 1970?

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    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Carbo? Odd selection or are you basing it just on 1970?
    I was wondering that as well, to be honest. I mean--I guess I can sort of see Lynch and Burgess--they were pinch hitting greats, and it would take the conversation to a whole different place than I thought (being--true bench players on the bench... and not just great regular players filling out a roster).

    However, I was then at a loss when Bagwell, Smith, and Bowa were added--because for 97% of their careers they were starters and starters only.

    Then I thought ok Bagwell, right handed, Smith, switch hitter, Bowa switch hitter--there gives you some flexibility, but then those are two shortstops and a firstbaseman... and Bernie Carbo really is just a left handed hitter off the bench with a .220 BA as a pinch hitter (albeit one great clutch homerun in 1975)

    I thought for sure, with the name, there would have been a slot for the greatest utility player of all-time in Pete Rose.
    Pete Rose (1B,2B,3B,OF)-switch hitter.

    Anyways--I suppose in the end it's PERHitKing's list and not mine!


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