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    Quote Originally Posted by 19braves77 View Post
    I kinda like seeing players struggle in the Minors because when they get to the MLB level they learn how to deal with it better. Three players that I always use for this example are Jeff Francouer, Delmon Young, and Jeremy Hermida.
    Didn't they struggle in the majors as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Didn't they struggle in the majors as well?
    I could be wrong, but I think he means that those players did not struggle in the minors and then did not know how to adjust when they struggled at the major league level.

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    I bet you could find plenty of players that didn't struggle ever in the minors and went on to be great major league players. Not real sure I buy that theory.
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    Re: Sickels Top 150 Prospects

    I'm as unimpressed with the Reds minor league talent as I've been in quite some time.

    It's very nice to have so much home grown talent on the roster......but I just don't see MLB star talent in any of the positional players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    I'm as unimpressed with the Reds minor league talent as I've been in quite some time.

    It's very nice to have so much home grown talent on the roster......but I just don't see MLB star talent in any of the positional players.
    What about Winker?

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    Disagree with you there 100%

    Yorman and Winkler both project as a top 1/3 tier outfielder, Yorman even more as he is very young for his league, has a good arm, and can play centerfield. Most scouts think Winkler will be a LF due to his defensive downside but will hit for 25/90 which would make him an everyday starter for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    I'm as unimpressed with the Reds minor league talent as I've been in quite some time.

    It's very nice to have so much home grown talent on the roster......but I just don't see MLB star talent in any of the positional players.
    If you have pitching you don't need MLB "star" talent. What exactly is a "star" though? There are guys with All-Star potential on the farm as position guys go. Whether they become that is a different question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    I'm as unimpressed with the Reds minor league talent as I've been in quite some time.

    It's very nice to have so much home grown talent on the roster......but I just don't see MLB star talent in any of the positional players.
    Excluding Winker, I might understand this statement - if you're only talking about position players. The pitching is as good as it's been in a long time.

    Winker is putting up numbers very similar to what Votto did at the same levels and age. Hard to see how you can't be impressed/excited with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Didn't they struggle in the majors as well?
    Yes however they would have learned how to deal with it better at the MLB level. Players need hiccups during development outside of injuries.
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    Re: Sickels Top 150 Prospects

    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    I'm as unimpressed with the Reds minor league talent as I've been in quite some time.

    It's very nice to have so much home grown talent on the roster......but I just don't see MLB star talent in any of the positional players.
    Stephenson might be the best pitching prospect the Reds have had ever, or at least since Nolan and Gullett. There's a lot of arms to like at the moment. That alone is reason to be high on the system. Winker could be an A-level hitter. Ervin was the complete package last year and we'll have to see how much of his early struggles are wrist-related. Yorman's coming around quite nicely. It would be nice to have some more position player prospects in AAA and AA, but Sickels ranked the system #14 and it's definitely on the rise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Stephenson might be the best pitching prospect the Reds have had ever, or at least since Nolan and Gullett. There's a lot of arms to like at the moment. That alone is reason to be high on the system. Winker could be an A-level hitter. Ervin was the complete package last year and we'll have to see how much of his early struggles are wrist-related. Yorman's coming around quite nicely. It would be nice to have some more position player prospects in AAA and AA, but Sickels ranked the system #14 and it's definitely on the rise.
    How quickly we forget the current Reds SP that was a consensus top 10 overall prospect. Seems that Stephenson is having some of the same consistency issues right now that Bailey did, but by all accounts, he's a bit more coachable.
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    What's strange is that almost all of the Reds interesting prospects are concentrated on two teams - Pensacola and Bakersfield. Louisville is the least interesting Reds AAA team I can ever remember, and outside of Travieso, Dayton hasn't been much to follow. One could make a case for a few of the guys like Daal, Rahier, Guillon, and even Ervin - so far as his early struggles have been a story, but really other than that, every interesting player in the Reds system is on one of those two teams. No top prospects really waiting to start in Rookie Leagues. Jose Ortiz maybe. Anyway, not sure what implication that has, but I thought it was interesting to note.
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    Isn't that how most teams are? Seems like the best prospects would usually be at High A and AA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    What's strange is that almost all of the Reds interesting prospects are concentrated on two teams - Pensacola and Bakersfield. Louisville is the least interesting Reds AAA team I can ever remember, and outside of Travieso, Dayton hasn't been much to follow. One could make a case for a few of the guys like Daal, Rahier, Guillon, and even Ervin - so far as his early struggles have been a story, but really other than that, every interesting player in the Reds system is on one of those two teams. No top prospects really waiting to start in Rookie Leagues. Jose Ortiz maybe. Anyway, not sure what implication that has, but I thought it was interesting to note.
    It could be a positive that that "batch" of prospects will start to trickle in by 2016 when this current Reds core will look a little different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    What's strange is that almost all of the Reds interesting prospects are concentrated on two teams - Pensacola and Bakersfield. Louisville is the least interesting Reds AAA team I can ever remember, and outside of Travieso, Dayton hasn't been much to follow. One could make a case for a few of the guys like Daal, Rahier, Guillon, and even Ervin - so far as his early struggles have been a story, but really other than that, every interesting player in the Reds system is on one of those two teams. No top prospects really waiting to start in Rookie Leagues. Jose Ortiz maybe. Anyway, not sure what implication that has, but I thought it was interesting to note.
    So other than five guys, there is no one to follow in Dayton? Amir Garrett is worth following. Sal Romano is worth following. Dan Langfield is worth following.

    The rookie levels have several guys of note down there, and of course the draft hasn't happened yet either.


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