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    6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    Here are the lineups. Frazier at first again. I think both times he has played 1st this season he has made errors. Lets hope for better tonight.


    1. Jimmy Rollins (S) SS
    2. Carlos Ruiz (R) C
    3. Chase Utley (L) 2B
    4. Ryan Howard (L) 1B
    5. Marlon Byrd (R) RF
    6. Domonic Brown (L) LF
    7. John Mayberry Jr. (R) CF
    8. Reid Brignac (L) 3B
    9. Cole Hamels (L) P


    1. Billy Hamilton (S) CF
    2. Brayan Pena (S) C
    3. Brandon Phillips (R) 2B
    4. Todd Frazier (R) 1B
    5. Jay Bruce (L) RF
    6. Ryan Ludwick (R) LF
    7. Zack Cozart (R) SS
    8. Ramon Santiago (S) 3B
    9. Johnny Cueto (R) P

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    I still don't get Frazier at 1st...but, hey, at least it's Cueto day!

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    Ugh, Frazer at first. I guess anybody can play first base.

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    As was said a few days ago in the game thread, everything was pointing to Mes sitting this game out against Hamels. Pena catches Cueto these days, it's become a regular rotation.

    The chain reaction is that Pena isn't available for first base.
    So Frazier plays first -- he's the remaining RHB to play first. (Price is correct not to stick a LHB in against Hamels.)
    Since Frazier is at first, Santiago is at third.

    Mes could have rested Wednesday against a righty and been available today against Hamels. But the rotation seems to be that Mes rests when Cueto pitches. Hope it works out.

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    Whatever benefit Cueto gets from Pena catching, he loses with Fraizer playing first and Santiago playing third.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    Ugh...we really need this game with Cueto pitching. This lineup is really going to struggle against Hamels who has absolutely dominated the Reds. I guess there isn't much we can swap in against LHP but I hate seeing the bad defense lineup with Santiago in against Hamels. Might be a 1-0 defeat type of night.
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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Whatever benefit Cueto gets from Pena catching, he loses with Fraizer playing first and Santiago playing third.
    I don't know, maybe Johnny has told Price that he really wants to pitch to Pena. Price obviously believes in this dedicated catcher business.

    And I'm not that upset about Frazier playing first defensively, it's not optimal, but ok for a game here and there.

    However, Mes sitting tonight is very unfortunate. Hamels is tough against the Reds. Mes hits lefties. Santiago and Cozart in the lineup and Mes sitting. Not ideal.

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by keeganbrick View Post
    Ugh...we really need this game with Cueto pitching. This lineup is really going to struggle against Hamels who has absolutely dominated the Reds. I guess there isn't much we can swap in against LHP but I hate seeing the bad defense lineup with Santiago in against Hamels. Might be a 1-0 defeat type of night.
    That one run is obviously unearned right?

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    Hamels has started 8 games this year and the Phillies have lost 7 of them. Guess the opponent in the game they won?

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    However, Mes sitting tonight is very unfortunate. Hamels is tough against the Reds. Mes hits lefties. Santiago and Cozart in the lineup and Mes sitting. Not ideal.
    Not a lot you can do when only 2 players on the roster have an OPS over .705 and one of those is a catcher that can't play every day.


    That's almost unbelievable to type. How do we have this many wins running out a lineup with 7 or 8 guys with sub .705 OPS.

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    I'm kinda frustrated hearing Price say he's not doing the personal catcher thing, yet he is and because of it, we have 1 of the 2 best players on the roster riding pine.

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    6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by SlimJim11 View Post
    Not a lot you can do when only 2 players on the roster have an OPS over .705 and one of those is a catcher that can't play every day.


    That's almost unbelievable to type. How do we have this many wins running out a lineup with 7 or 8 guys with sub .705 OPS.
    Just would like Mes in there against this pitcher. Lefty who usually gives the Reds fits.

    Your point is well taken though.

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    Quote Originally Posted by SlimJim11 View Post
    Not a lot you can do when only 2 players on the roster have an OPS over .705 and one of those is a catcher that can't play every day.


    That's almost unbelievable to type. How do we have this many wins running out a lineup with 7 or 8 guys with sub .705 OPS.
    Great pitching and a little bit of luck have something to do with it.

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    Re: 6/6/2014 Reds vs Phillies

    Not really a tough first inning for Cueto, but he did rack up over 20 pitches.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."


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