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    Reds Top Prospects - June 2014 Edition

    2014 Draftees included, here's a whole state of the system:

    GRADE A Top 25 Prospect in the game and perennial All-Star potential

    1. Robert Stephenson RHP AA - Still the crown jewel of the system, he should replace whichever of the three pitchers (Cueto, Leake, Latos) the Reds decide to trade before their walk year in the 2015 rotation.

    GRADE B Top 100 Prospect in the game and above average starter potential

    2. Jesse Winker OF A+ - He should be promoted to Pensacola immediately, and if his numbers there look anything like his numbers everywhere else, he will join Stephenson in Grade A territory.
    3. Michael Lorenzen RHP AA - Also has Grade A potential and could reach it if/when he starts missing more bats. A Cincinnati callup before the end of 2015 is not out of the question.
    4. Nick Travieso RHP A - Having a nice bounceback season after a rocky 2014. First class stuff.
    5. Ben Lively RHP A+ - Has hit some light turbulence for the first time in his pro career over the last couple weeks. Still should be in Pensacola after the Bakersfield All-Star game.

    GRADE C Should have a major league career

    6. Yorman Rodriguez OF AA - Continues to be polarizing and disappointing, although he's still one of the youngest players in AA. The tools are still there, so there is plenty of time, but he won't be helping fill the void as the Reds LF anytime soon.
    7. Phil Ervin OF A - Another disappointing start, and moreso when you consider he's a year older than Yorman yet struggling two levels behind. Hopefully he turns it around soon.
    8. Nick Howard RHP A - The debut of the 2014 first round pick comes right after last year's first round pick. If Howard's pro debut is anything like his converted reliever predecessors in Lorenzen or Cingrani, he could shoot up the list. I'd like to see him start in Dayton.
    9. Seth Mejias-Brean 3B A+ - Competition just got a lot stiffer for SMB with the drafting of Blandino and Sparks. He should get a bump to Pensacola by midsummer and can hopefully continue to produce there to stay ahead of the new draftees.
    10. Jon Moscot RHP AA - While his stuff and his strikeouts aren't overwhelming, he continues to get great results. Could get bumped to Louisville soon to make room for Lively.

    11. Alex Blandino 2B/SS A - Will be interesting to see where he starts - both level-wise and position-wise. I've heard he'll start at SS but likely eventually ends up as BP's heir at 2B. Not sure how he fits in at SS vis-a-vis Daal in Dayton or Thompson in Billings. As an advanced college hitter, I'd start him in Dayton.
    12. Taylor Sparks 3B A - Ditto vis-a-vis the last two fellow second-round 3B: Rahier in Dayton and Franklin in Billings. I liked the upside with this pick if he can make contact. Could be a Mark Reynolds-lite.
    13. Carlos Contreras RHP AA - Hasn't pitched since April but the stuff is there. Question still remains is he a starter or closer?
    14. Kyle Waldrop OF A+ - Cooled off a bit after a hot start. Would still like to see how he stacks up to Juan Duran in Pensacola.
    15. Carlton Daal SS A - Lots of errors but otherwise a strong full season debut for the best SS prospect in the system. Can he stay there?

    HONORABLE MENTION

    16. Junior Arias CF A+ - Lots of tools but injured. The OF version of Contreras.
    17. Tanner Rahier 3B A - Like Travieso, a nice bounceback season after a disappointing debut last year. Will be challenged by all the 3B competition within the organization.
    18. Dan Corcino RHP AA - Experiencing a resurgence of sorts. Future is still probably as a reliever, but nice to see him experiencing success as he's still young.
    19. David Holmberg LHP AAA - Also injured, horrific start to the season.
    20. Ismael Guillon LHP A - Needs to be challenged in Bakersfield.

    KEEP AN EYE ON (TOO EARLY TO TELL) - the top 10 guys to watch in Rookie Ball

    Jose Ortiz C
    KJ Franklin 3B
    Cory Thompson SS
    Shane Mardirosian 2B
    Gavin LaValley 1B

    Jeremy Kivel RHP
    Mark Armstrong RHP
    Wyatt Strahan RHP
    Jacob Constante LHP
    Luis Tabata LHP

    PROMOTIONS ON THE HORIZON

    Winker and Waldrop to the Pensacola OF
    Wright and Mejias-Brean to the Pensacola INF
    Guillon and Langfield to the Bakersfield Rotation
    Lively to the Pensacola Rotation
    Moscot to the Louisville Rotation

    OTHER

    I'd really like to see them try to convert KJ Franklin into a catcher. I've been saying this since the day he was drafted, but more so than ever now with the 3B depth ahead of him in the organization - Frazier, Silviero, Mejias-Brean, Rahier and Sparks. So far the conversion of another 3B to C - David Vidal - seems to be working. Franklin could cut his teeth in the AZL while undergoing this change, at least until Jose Ortiz gets bumped to Dayton.
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - June 2014 Edition

    Contreras actually returned Thursday night, in relief.

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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - June 2014 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Contreras actually returned Thursday night, in relief.
    Ah, missed that. So is he a reliever going forward?
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - June 2014 Edition

    Your note about Waldrop cooling off is old. He's on fire now. .462 Avg and 1.153 OPS over last 10 games.
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - June 2014 Edition

    Add 3B Montrell Marshall to the list of Rookie Leaguers to keep an eye on if he signs. I LOVE that pick.
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - June 2014 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    Your note about Waldrop cooling off is old. He's on fire now. .462 Avg and 1.153 OPS over last 10 games.
    All the more reason his promotion to Pensacola is long overdue.
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - June 2014 Edition

    Have we all pretty much given up on Gabriel Rosa?
    "In baseball, you don't know nothin'"...Yogi Berra

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicoruiz View Post
    Have we all pretty much given up on Gabriel Rosa?
    Haven't given up on him as he's still only 21, but he's going to have to start producing in full season ball in order to make any noise on the prospects list. Tools and potential only gets you so far, and if you're not translating that into production by your third or fourth professional season, you start to wonder. That's why Yorman needs to get things going in the second half or he'll start to slide pretty quickly. Ditto for Ervin.
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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - June 2014 Edition

    Is David Holmberg getting docked too hard? It's only 5 starts and he's still young for AAA.

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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - June 2014 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Ditto for Ervin.
    Ervin is producing now (.825 OPS last 19 games). Who knows what was going on to start the season, but hopefully that's behind him for good

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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - June 2014 Edition

    I'd argue that a five place difference (No. 5 to No. 10) between Lively and Moscot is perhaps too much. Moscot is about seven months older. But he's playing a level higher and has been pretty dominant. Not that high a K rate, 7.2, but a very low walk rate. In many respects has outperformed higher rated prospects at his same level.

    Moscot has an argument for third best starter in the organization, not counting the guys just drafted this week. I'd make him player 5(a). You could also argue Lively and Moscot are 4 and 4(a) based on results.
    Last edited by Kc61; 06-07-2014 at 11:22 PM.

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    Re: Reds Top Prospects - June 2014 Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Haven't given up on him as he's still only 21,
    He's 20 for another month, making this his age 20 season.


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