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    John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    Stephenson at 13 (down from 8).
    Winker at 32
    Lorenzen (surprisingly to me) didn't make the top 75.

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2014/...e-2014-sickels

    My personal rankings would have Stephenson ~15, Winker ~25, and Lorenzen in the 40-50 range.
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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    How about a link?

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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    Interesting, he has Lively ranked 135 and Lorenzen NR. Or is that last years rankings?

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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    Rankings coming into the year.

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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    I am a big Jesse Winker fan. Hopefully he gets a shot to win the LF battle next season.

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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    Hamilton, Votto, Frazier, Bruce, Mesoraco, Winker, Phillips, Cozart

    2015 lineup.

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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    Quote Originally Posted by JMO View Post
    Hamilton, Votto, Frazier, Bruce, Mesoraco, Winker, Phillips, Cozart

    2015 lineup.
    Maybe July of 2015 lineup, and that is if Winker tears the cover off the ball.

    Have to remember he is really young and just started playing at AA.

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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Maybe July of 2015 lineup, and that is if Winker tears the cover off the ball.

    Have to remember he is really young and just started playing at AA.
    If he follows Bruce's development arc, he'll be promoted to the majors sometime in late May or early June of next year. But I never base expectations of one player upon the performance of another. Winker will be up when he's ready.
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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    Lorenzen isn't striking anyone out.
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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Lorenzen isn't striking anyone out.
    I've been saying this as well. The good news is that it sounds like Lorenzen is a ground ball machine who gets a lot of easy outs early in counts. The scouting report on him is good control, but nasty enough stuff to strike you out when need be.

    I still love Lively's K rate though. And yes, I know K rate is not the end all, be all. But with Lively, it's just just his K rate. He was dominant at Bakersfield in a hitter's league. Absolutely dominant. And his early numbers at Pensacola aren't all that far behind Stephenson's.

    Bottom line: We're loaded with good pitching prospects. That's a good feeling.
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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Lorenzen isn't striking anyone out.
    Doesn't matter much at this point. He's got elite level stuff and is literally learning to pitch every time he steps on the mound. He's still learning finer points of things that most of the other guys around him have known about for 4+ years.

    The biggest thing against Lorenzen in my opinion is the complete lack of a workload to build upon. We don't know how the stuff holds up for 120+ innings. We don't know if the control holds up for that many innings.

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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    At the end of the article there is a list of other players considered. Lively, Ervin and Lorenzin all are in that group.

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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    I'm no scout, but I have a hard time seeing Winker as an everyday LF next year just based upon experience. I'd be very happy with him arriving Opening Day 2016 and that may be pushing it. Then again, I didn't think Billy would be ready Opening Day this year either....

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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    Quote Originally Posted by Redeyecat View Post
    I'm no scout, but I have a hard time seeing Winker as an everyday LF next year just based upon experience. I'd be very happy with him arriving Opening Day 2016 and that may be pushing it. Then again, I didn't think Billy would be ready Opening Day this year either....
    What makes you think that?

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    Re: John Sickels Top 75 Prospects at Midseason

    Quote Originally Posted by Redeyecat View Post
    I'm no scout, but I have a hard time seeing Winker as an everyday LF next year just based upon experience. I'd be very happy with him arriving Opening Day 2016 and that may be pushing it. Then again, I didn't think Billy would be ready Opening Day this year either....
    Why? He's already in AA and he's had a really mature approach at the plate from the moment he entered the system.


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