Re: How Pensacola's right field effects Yorman Rodriguez
His Isolated Power in Double-A to right field at home is .286
His Isolated Power in Double-A to right field on road is .466
That's a 63% increase in isolated power to right field on the road.
Not sure if anyone else heard this yesterday, but Ken Griffey Sr. was on MLB Radio and briefly discussed his role with the Reds. When asked if he's seen any good looking young hitters, his answer was "a couple." He named Winker and Mejias-Brean as the guys who impress him (don't remember his exact wording). No mention of Y-Rod, Ervin or any others. It was a quick off-hand comment and wasn't really the reason he was on the show, so maybe the omission of other names means nothing, but I thought it was interesting that those were the names he dropped.
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Yorman Rodriguez OPS
36 Career Home Runs
70 Career Stolen Bases (trending down)
Please Yorman, you've been in the system for 5 years...excite me.
Because I haven't seen great power from him anywhere. Even above average for that matter. He hasn't hit double digit home runs at any level in a given season at any point in his career. For a guy with a career .308 OBP, that's not very good. Even worse for a corner OF. Just compare him to a guy like Neftali Soto- while Yorman may have more speed and defensive ability, Soto significantly outperformed him at every level, and was the same age while doing so. Yet Soto is a fringe major league backup at best, and more likely a AAAA player.
I'll stop hating on Yorman for now, because I am rooting hard for him and do think he has the chance to turn it around and become a very interesting player. I was very excited when the Reds signed him in August 2008. He just hasn't inspired all that much confidence to this point, and patience is starting to wear thin - especially when considering he's out of options after next season (I think).
Last edited by Benihana; 07-19-2014 at 01:08 PM.
I'm not worried about the career numbers of a guy who is 21 and in Double-A. You may be, but what he did in the past is not nearly as important to me as what he's doing now, and what he's done in the last 13 months, sans an injured May of 2014, is far better than "a guy with a career .308 OBP".
He's a center fielder.
Neftali Soto, at the same age, was in Advanced-A, not already racking up 600 Double-A plate appearances. Soto hit ok that year.
Again, I continue to think that people are undervaluing him here because "he's been around forever". I mean you said it yourself, your patience is wearing thin on a guy younger than Phillip Ervin, who was just drafted last season. Think about that for a second. You are tired of waiting around on a guy who is the same age as kids drafted last season. As for the options, that may effect him as a Reds fan, but it does not in any way effect his prospect value when it comes to rankings.
Last edited by Superdude; 07-19-2014 at 01:53 PM.
Jay Bruce does seem like one of those "peaked early" guys, but even he peaked four years down the road from where Yorman Rodriguez is right now (at age 25).
I just know that the people I talk to today, and last year who see him at the Double-A level tend to really like him. Only one guy I've talked with wasn't a big fan. Liked the tools, didn't like the skills (this was last year when this conversation happened).
Would I like to see him go out and hit .300/.360/.450+? Of course I would. But for the last year, he's hit pretty well at a level he's very young for and has shown improvements over that time while maintaining the best set of overall tools in the entire system. I will take that.
As far a hitting goes, how often does a guy who has 4 straight years of sub ~.750 OPS (I think he is averaging in the .600s overall for the 4 years) in AA or less turn out to be a good MLB hitter?
It certainly happens and Yorman can still get it going...but that's why I don't rank him as high as others do.
I look at the overall sample to judge him...but compare his and Winker's short stints at Bakersfield. Winker is the better prospect...but that is some difference.
Winker is a Top 30 prospect in baseball. He is among the elite of the elite. Despite playing left field, what he did there was so impressive it got him into the elite of the elite prospects in the game.
Rodriguez hit very well in two of the three months he was in Bakersfield last year. He was brutal in May. Maybe he doesn't like May? It wasn't quite Winker like, but it was .297/.360/.559 outside of that putrid May.
Rodriguez isn't in the class of Winker as a hitter. Winker has more power, is a better hitter, makes more contact and walks quite a bit more.
At the same time, Winker isn't in the class of Rodriguez as a defender/base runner. Rodriguez can play center and is a very good corner outfielder with an elite level arm. He's also a plus runner. Not a good base stealer mind you, but the speed isn't something that you can teach Winker to do. It's either there or it's not.
The advantage Winker has as a hitter over the advantage Rodriguez has on defense/running game is big enough that it keeps a decent gap between them for now (at least in my mind). But I just think that he's a better hitter than people are giving him credit for, both today and looking at the future. It's his bad May, when clearly injured, that's keeping his numbers down and thus peoples thinking about it. After April, Benihana had him 4th in the system. Then May happened and he dropped out of the top 10 and now he doesn't believe in him. It's a confusing thing given how he's actually performed in Double-A outside of May 2014.