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    If the Reds are going to make any moves of purpose it better have multiple years in mind. With the way this season has been and Votto and BP still 5 weeks away it would be insane to deplete the farm for a rental.

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    Re: From What I have Heard

    What type of move could be made for 2015 but not 2014? If a player is not going to help the team this year I would not expect much out of them in 2015.

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    Re: From What I have Heard

    Quote Originally Posted by RadfordVA View Post
    What type of move could be made for 2015 but not 2014? If a player is not going to help the team this year I would not expect much out of them in 2015.
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    Thats the most popular name out there, for sure.

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    When is the last time Jocketty toook a big risk with only short term payoff? I certainly can't think of any; he just doesn't work that way. Even when he's made big moves, there's been an expectation of long-term value involved.
    Last edited by RedsManRick; 07-25-2014 at 05:15 PM.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: From What I have Heard

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    When is the last time Jocketty toook a big risk with only short term payoff?

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    Re: From What I have Heard

    For the record, there is very similar chatter on the Cards boards and blogs these days. Many fans don't see 2014 as a year to go for it, considering all the injuries and poor performance.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: From What I have Heard

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    When is the last time Jocketty toook a big risk with only short term payoff? I certainly can't think of any; he just doesn't work that way. Even when he's made big moves, there's been an expectation of long-term value involved.
    Choo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
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    and yes - I hate the Cardinals (Reds fan since 1958)

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    Quote Originally Posted by toledodan View Post
    to be honest it makes the most sense. not crazy about it but with votto and BP out about another month it might be reality.
    I agree -- need more than one piece to fix this season
    The older I get - the better I was

    and yes - I hate the Cardinals (Reds fan since 1958)

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    Re: From What I have Heard

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    When is the last time Jocketty toook a big risk with only short term payoff? I certainly can't think of any; he just doesn't work that way. Even when he's made big moves, there's been an expectation of long-term value involved.
    Choo is the only one I can think of. And he wasn't exactly a big risk.
    Unless you consider Broxton and Marshall.. they came over as short timers.
    Not disagreeing with you at all. It's a good point.

    However, I will say this.. IF the Reds can get a rental player at 2b, 1b, or OF for a C level prospect with a short time commitment that is close to an average level starter,
    that would help a lot. That would be worth doing. That would help lessen the loss of Phillips and Votto.
    Starting Pena and Santiago every day instead almost guarantees we will slip out of the WC race.
    They have performed admirably, but it should be easy to get a short term upgrade for them.
    The bench is so thin from injuries that playing time shouldn't be too hard to find for the new guy, even if Votto and BP come back this year.
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    I've got a strong Jack Armstrong feeling about Simon. I think trading him now would be the wisest move in both the short and long term.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrherd05 View Post
    Take it for what it is worth, and to most, if not all of you, it will mean very little.

    Just stating what I have heard, from someone who would know.

    Thats all.

    You can discuss it, like most do on message boards. You can rip on me as a pointless poster, which is fine, or, as usually happens on this board you can sweep it into some 100 page thread that is only read by 10 or 12 of you, and other fans like myself by pass it due to it being all over the places.

    Like I said, from what I have heard, from someone who would have a good idea of the subject, is that the Reds will try to only make a move at this deadline which will help them for 2015. It is what it is for 2014.

    I, personally, hope that I am dead wrong.
    Youre a pointless poster! But I think you're right and got the sense a few weeks that any moves made would be buy low hope high type deals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    Choo is the only one I can think of. And he wasn't exactly a big risk.
    Unless you consider Broxton and Marshall.. they came over as short timers.
    Not disagreeing with you at all. It's a good point.

    However, I will say this.. IF the Reds can get a rental player at 2b, 1b, or OF for a C level prospect with a short time commitment that is close to an average level starter,
    that would help a lot. That would be worth doing. That would help lessen the loss of Phillips and Votto.
    Starting Pena and Santiago every day instead almost guarantees we will slip out of the WC race.
    They have performed admirably, but it should be easy to get a short term upgrade for them.
    The bench is so thin from injuries that playing time shouldn't be too hard to find for the new guy, even if Votto and BP come back this year.
    I would not spend one dime or one prospect on a rental player for this year.

    Everything needs to be focused on next season.

    If an acquisition also helps in 2014, all the better. Great. But IMO the Reds are too far behind to spend resources on this year.

    Focusing on games behind, number of teams ahead, and the expected time for Votto's rehab and to a lesser extent Phillips' rehab.

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