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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    [QUOTE=westofyou;3145578]Reds fans in the 50's:

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    Gary Nolan's not hurt, what a dog.

    Maybe the Reds should send Votto to see a dentist. Maybe an abcessed tooth is causing his quad problems.
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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Okay. I'm wrong. But I also read that pre-existing injuries are virtually never covered anymore. Whether the quad injury can be lumped with the knee as preexisting by the insurer, idk.
    Would have to part of the conspiracy because they have already said in the media that the MRI of his knee showed his knee was in good shape.

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    But don't forget, Joey is doing "extremely well."

    No worries here.
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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    I'd be way more worried about Votto's future if he hadn't played 162 games last year (while having the 4th best OPS in the NL) and having a 900 OPS in April before getting hurt.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    I'd be way more worried about Votto's future if he hadn't played 162 games last year (while having the 4th best OPS in the NL) and having a 900 OPS in April before getting hurt.
    I would too.

    There were a number of things that knocked the team out contention, not just Votto. I think it's pretty important to remember that as well. Frazier's, Rocco's, and Hamilton's emergence masked the problems for a short time, but this failure had many causes.

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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    I'd be way more worried about Votto's future if he hadn't played 162 games last year (while having the 4th best OPS in the NL) and having a 900 OPS in April before getting hurt.
    4th best OPS, sure, but it was OBP heavy.

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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    4th best OPS, sure, but it was OBP heavy.
    And Lord knows getting on base means you didn't make an out and well we know that not making an out correlates with creating more runs than anything else in baseball.

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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    4th best OPS, sure, but it was OBP heavy.
    While the slugging was a career low, people tend to act as though it were Sean Casey circa 2005 levels. He still hit 24 bombs, 30 doubles, and 3 triples.
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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    4th best OPS, sure, but it was OBP heavy.
    Top ten in slugging top one in OBP.

    That's an MVP candidate
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    If OBP were easy, there'd be a ton of guys who are consistently over .400+ each year like Votto.

    There's not.
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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Reds fans in the 50's:

    Ted Klusewski's sherking he has no problem with his back

    Reds fans in the 60's:

    Joe Nuxhall's a POS, let's dump him

    Reds fans in the 70's

    Gary Nolan's not hurt, what a dog.

    Reds fans in the 80's:

    Eric Davis is fragile and begs to not play, lazy I say.

    Reds fans in the 90's:

    Barry Larkin isn't elite, if he was he'd play 162 games a year, it's just a game.

    Reds fans in the 00's:

    Griffey is a dog, never worked out enough, doesn't try to do as much as he could.

    Reds fans in 10's:

    Joey Votto is a primma donna and a walking waste.
    Who were these Reds fans? I always thought Gary Nolan was one tough hombre, always one of my favorites. Always respected the fact that he came back after being injured. A gamer.

    Nuxhall in the 60s? I don't remember him being that big a deal. Slow and steady but overshadowed by Maloney, Jay, purkey, and O'toole.

    Eric- My knock was that he played too hard.

    Larkin was so good and was compared to Ripkin so sometimes his injuries were frustrating.

    I'm an out of towner so I have no knowledge about how the good folks of Cincinnati responded to these guys, but i think you might be setting up strawmen.

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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    And Lord knows getting on base means you didn't make an out and well we know that not making an out correlates with creating more runs than anything else in baseball.
    I agree but Votto is clearly in decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Top ten in slugging top one in OBP.

    That's an MVP candidate
    Yeah- wasn't doing that this year. Last year is neat and all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutaman View Post
    Who were these Reds fans? I always thought Gary Nolan was one tough hombre, always one of my favorites. Always respected the fact that he came back after being injured. A gamer.

    Nuxhall in the 60s? I don't remember him being that big a deal. Slow and steady but overshadowed by Maloney, Jay, purkey, and O'toole.

    Eric- My knock was that he played too hard.

    Larkin was so good and was compared to Ripkin so sometimes his injuries were frustrating.

    I'm an out of towner so I have no knowledge about how the good folks of Cincinnati responded to these guys, but i think you might be setting up strawmen.

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    There's two, I don't need to pull up examples of the others you mentioned, I heard them and many others here did as well.

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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    I agree but Votto is clearly in decline.

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    Yeah- wasn't doing that this year. Last year is neat and all...
    Clearly?

    Does that mean he's got a target on his back?

    Does one have to be the absolute zenith every year to get respect?

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    Re: Votto Continuing Treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Clearly?

    Does that mean he's got a target on his back?

    Does one have to be the absolute zenith every year to get respect?
    I'm not saying I don't respect him.

    I think he's declining.

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