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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    You guys do realize Lamb isn't a finished product?
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    Chip is right

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    Complete games under 90 pitches are called a Maddux

    I think he had a 78 pitch one. Buehrle had one less I believe.
    80 pitch CGs are called Hochevars
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00906120.shtml

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    True, but his 97-99 weren't exactly too shabby.
    No, no they weren't. They were pretty ridiculous for the era of .600 slugging Caminiti

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    Closer look

    ERA+ Maddux 170, Pedro 158

    Maddux (I know they don't matter but....) 70 more wins

    4 ERA titles to 2 for Maddux

    Maddux 5x led innings pitched Pedro 0

    Maddux twice as many shutouts

    Maddux strikeout to walk leader 3x

    and if a tie breaker needed....Maddux 10 gold gloves in the 90's
    Limiting it to a specific set of years makes it unbalanced at the outset. Pedro's best years came right after the decade ended. Let's also recall that Pedro was in the AL while Maddux was in the NL right in the prime of the long-ball era. It makes for an interesting debate...but the bottom line is that they were both flat out studs doing it in completely opposite ways. Sure would've been nice to see one in a Cincy uni.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    You guys do realize Lamb isn't a finished product?
    He needs more time under the broiler?

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Not unless he fixes the walks. Starter OR reliever.

    Prior to tonight I don't recall walks being much of an issue with Lamb. But he's making up for it tonight.
    7 walks in 5 starts before tonight, 6 walks tonight.

    Haven't been too much of issue for him in the minors, think it's just a glitch.
    I dont care, Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. Hes in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    yessiree!

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    7 walks in 5 starts before tonight, 6 walks tonight.

    Haven't been too much of issue for him in the minors, think it's just a glitch.
    Strategy by the Cards?
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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    LOL. 5 innings of 3 hit shutout ball has never looked so bad. The end results are great...but talk about playing with fire.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    7 walks in 5 starts before tonight, 6 walks tonight.

    Haven't been too much of issue for him in the minors, think it's just a glitch.
    Wild lamb is kind of gamey

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Limiting it to a specific set of years makes it unbalanced at the outset. Pedro's best years came right after the decade ended. Let's also recall that Pedro was in the AL while Maddux was in the NL right in the prime of the long-ball era. It makes for an interesting debate...but the bottom line is that they were both flat out studs doing it in completely opposite ways. Sure would've been nice to see one in a Cincy uni.
    Yeah....but gotta stay in the 90's to answer his question. Pedro didn't pitch in the AL until 1998 lol. He also was better in the AL than the NL

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    Yeah....but gotta stay in the 90's to answer his question. Pedro didn't pitch in the AL until 1998 lol. He also was better in the AL than the NL
    I was looking at careers as a whole. But yeah, if you MUST limit it to the 90's, it's not that close.

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    I was looking at careers as a whole. But yeah, if you MUST limit it to the 90's, it's not that close.
    Wasn't my question...I just played along

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    Has Lamb been pitching inside and shearing off bats?

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    Re: 9/10/2015 Reds Birds at Red Legs

    His skin is as white as snow. Followed Mary around every freaking place too


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