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    Quote Originally Posted by sdwagers View Post
    I'd love for the Reds to nab the Tennessee Smokies someday. Knoxville is on that line of Reds/ Braves country and would help the Reds fanbase. I think that Jacksonville or Pensacola are it this time around though.

    For rookie ball the Princeton makes a ton of sense in the WV market. (former affiliate too). Heck - I'll be selfish and would really love the Pulaski market as I have family there. (even if Princeton got the nod to see games in Pulaski) The Yankees have poured a TON of money into that place for sure. Billings makes no sense whatsoever.

    Dayton will never leave the Reds family of MiLB teams. Never.
    I always thought it was a minor tragedy when the Reds lost their Chattanooga affiliate. Maybe if they can sign a two-year deal for AA, they can poach Tennessee or Chattanooga in 2018.

    Princeton and Pulaski definitely make more geographic sense than Billings for the Reds, though they've got the problem of being a step down the development ladder just like Billings. The Yankees and Rays have those two affiliates plus a New York-Penn affiliate. In all 22 teams have affiliates at the A- level and the Reds need to get into that mix. The NY-P makes the most sense. Where it's jumping on an existing affiliate or starting a new one, this ought to be a priority for the organization.
    Wait until the year after next year.

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    The Reds being in Billings is odd. I mean there is now history there since they have been affiliated so long. But in this age of efficiency and logistics it doesn't make a lot of sense.

    /this from an owner of Billings Mustangs apparel

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    The NY/Penn league wants to expand by two teams by 2018. Perfect time to make the addition.

    Mobile will eventually be relocated. It's on the market with the lease to Hank Aaron Stadium expiring in 2022. Two interested groups is a group based out of Lousiana and one from Mass. If one team wanted to buy out the lease, they could have a huge say so in where the Baybears would be relocated.
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    Amarillo is building a downtown ballpark. It's all but certain we are getting the AA San Antonio Missions as they are also building a park to get a AAA team. Our park should be complete (construction won't start until next year) in 2018.

    I'd be ok if the deal fell through and we had to settle for the Reds joining the Texas League for AA.
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    Not that it affects the Reds in the short term, but the long discussed move of two teams from the High A Cal League to the High A Carolina League is gaining momentum, to happen as soon as next year. The 2 losers are our buddies in Bakersfield, and supposedly High Desert. The gaining cities would look to be Fayetteville, NC and Kinston, NC.
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    Re: It's time for the Affiliation Shuffle Again

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    Amarillo is building a downtown ballpark. It's all but certain we are getting the AA San Antonio Missions as they are also building a park to get a AAA team. Our park should be complete (construction won't start until next year) in 2018.

    I'd be ok if the deal fell through and we had to settle for the Reds joining the Texas League for AA.
    You get a AA franchise from San Antonio, not an affiliation. San Antonio's Affiliation end this year. But....with a new ballpark and a coveted Texas League slot, the chances of getting the Reds are miniscule at best.
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    In the "reading nothing into something department" This is the first year of control for new ownership in Jacksonville. The owner here also own the Akron AA franchise. Neither has signed yet. I wonder if that is coincidence. At least in Jacksonville's case he inherited the Marlins.
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    More than likely we are returning to being the AA city for San Diego. Amarillo was home to the Gold Sox in the late 70's early 80's.

    But hey, I can dream right?
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    Re: It's time for the Affiliation Shuffle Again

    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    More than likely we are returning to being the AA city for San Diego. Amarillo was home to the Gold Sox in the late 70's early 80's.

    But hey, I can dream right?
    Well you COULD, but it's such a waste of time when they are obviously coming to Jacksonville
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    Well you COULD, but it's such a waste of time when they are obviously coming to Jacksonville
    thppt!

    I'd say our no state income tax trumps... oh wait... Florida.

    We have better Mexican Food.
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    Look at poor Rockies:

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    Re: It's time for the Affiliation Shuffle Again

    Quote Originally Posted by 19braves77 View Post
    Look at poor Rockies:

    I was surprised that every AA team is east of the Rockies. Seems kinda inefficient to me to be honest.
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    Re: It's time for the Affiliation Shuffle Again

    Should the Reds instead of moving from Billings, just get one of the two openings in the NE Short A season.

    So you would have a Rookie ball short league Billings, and a A ball short season team "location unknown", and then Dayton.

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    Re: It's time for the Affiliation Shuffle Again

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    Should the Reds instead of moving from Billings, just get one of the two openings in the NE Short A season.

    So you would have a Rookie ball short league Billings, and a A ball short season team "location unknown", and then Dayton.
    Doubtful. That would make three rookie-ball teams. They aren't getting rid of the complex level AZL squad. And "short season A-ball" is the same exact competition level as Billings - the classification is just different for some strange reason. Not many teams have three stateside rookie level teams, and I can't imagine the Reds adding an additional one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Doubtful. That would make three rookie-ball teams. They aren't getting rid of the complex level AZL squad. And "short season A-ball" is the same exact competition level as Billings - the classification is just different for some strange reason. Not many teams have three stateside rookie level teams, and I can't imagine the Reds adding an additional one.
    10 organizations have three teams at rookie and short-season ball (Yankees, Mets, Cardinals, Rays, Astros, Blue Jays, Royals, Rockies, Pirates and DBacks), and it's going to increase when the NY-P adds some new teams. My understanding is short-season A in the NY-P and Northwest leagues are a definite step up from the Pioneer and Appy Leagues. Organizations with teams split between those leagues treat them that way. Players move up from the Pulaski Yankees to the Staten Island Yankees.

    Maybe the Reds won't add a third team, but 1/3 of MLB franchises do it and another 13 play at a higher level than the Reds do in Billings (the Royals have a team each in the Appy and Pioneer).
    Last edited by M2; 06-23-2016 at 03:44 PM.
    Wait until the year after next year.


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