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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/...ung-lions.html

    Right-hander Ben Lively has agreed to sign with the Samsung Lions of the Korea Baseball Organization, according to Naver Sports (h/t: Sung Min Kim of FanGraphs). He’ll take the roster spot of another former major league righty, Deck McGuire, whom the Lions will release.
    The most poetic part of this is that he is replacing Deck McGuire in Korea.
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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    I should write about prospects for a living. Ariel Hernandez. Lol.
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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    If the Phils offered Lively for Reed or Stephenson and the Reds said no I would be even more sad panda.

    Garrett - TBD - Garrett has the worst spin rate in baseball (I learned it from you)! Not exactly setting the world on fire this year

    Romano - hard to say

    Castillo - Castillo is a better prospect

    Mahle - seems like Lively Jr to me

    Vlad - Vlad is a better prospect

    Santillan - very far away, Lively all day, er day

    Hergert - Lively is better

    Rookie Davis - lol

    Ariel Hernandez - this dude has a ton to prove, Lively

    Zach Weiss - isn't this guy a reliever?

    Tanner Rainey - Lively

    Romero - Lively

    Lopez - Lively

    Nick Hanson - come on, you can't believe what you said about this. The reds are desperate for MLB starting pitching. Chances are Hanson doesn't even get to AAA.

    Reed - Lively

    Stephenson - this guy is horrible.
    Not trying to single you out, but this just goes to show how hard it is to project a prospect. 90% of the time I'm in favor of trading them for proven major league talent because they chances they ever make a significant impact is slim.

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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime View Post
    Not trying to single you out, but this just goes to show how hard it is to project a prospect. 90% of the time I'm in favor of trading them for proven major league talent because they chances they ever make a significant impact is slim.
    I think I was correct about almost all of those. Lively has a career 1.6 bWAR, most of the guys on that list have either never made it to the majors or have negative WAR.
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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    I read this post as RIP Ben Lively. Glad to see I was mistaken.
    I'm just going to go find a cash machine.

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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigLebowski View Post
    I read this post as RIP Ben Lively. Glad to see I was mistaken.
    Now I feel better that I'm not the only one who did that

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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    Yep. Me too.
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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I think I was correct about almost all of those. Lively has a career 1.6 bWAR, most of the guys on that list have either never made it to the majors or have negative WAR.
    Sorry, gotta call you out on this one.
    Lively going to Korea is a decent indicator his career is over.
    Many of the players above still have a great shot at far surpassing Lively as they are still young and are current major league starters or relievers.
    Others like Romano/Vlad/Santillan still project to have a future big league career and are in the high minors.
    The ones who have failed were low minors relief pitchers.
    Even Rainey and Rookie are still plugging away with MLB teams.
    (Referring to Jack Hannahan signing with a Korean team)
    Since there are no teams on the moon, I guess South Korea's far enough from Cincinnati to satisfy me.
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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    Ya.... and his entire bwar is predicated on a 5.50 xfip.... it was pure luck. He doesn’t have a major league skill set, and this is definitely not one to self declare victory on.


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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I think I was correct about almost all of those. Lively has a career 1.6 bWAR, most of the guys on that list have either never made it to the majors or have negative WAR.
    Lively has less value than literally every player on that list as of today.

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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    Quote Originally Posted by podgejeff_ View Post
    Lively has less value than literally every player on that list as of today.
    As of today. I'm pretty sure his point is Lively has had a more valuable MLB career than almost all of those other players to this point.
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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    Almost every player on that will have less career bWAR than Lively.

    I looked up a few and they all have negative at this point of the ones that made it to the show other than AG and Castillo.

    Setting Lively aside, that list, to me, shows what went wrong with the Reds rebuild. Just a pathetic list of SPs for the most part. It sucks so hard Stephenson, Reed, and it’s looking like Vlad all failed miserably.
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    Re: RP Ben Lively

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Serafini View Post
    Now I feel better that I'm not the only one who did that
    Same for me. Every time I see this I'm thinking, Oh no! Then realize its just RP.
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