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    Bloodletting at ESPN

    A bunch of on-air talent -- including our beloved leatherpants -- has been laid off by ESPN today:

    With phone calls and meetings beginning informing some ESPN employees that they have been laid off, word will slowly trickle out all day long about who they are. There will be plenty of names you have heard of, as ESPN reorients their daily lineup of shows, and their online video and stories to match.
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    Re: Bloodletting at ESPN

    Here is an updated list of who has been let go so far

    http://awfulannouncing.com/espn/conf...y-updated.html

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    Overdue. ESPN is bloated and terrible (other than when they're showing actual sporting events).

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    ESPN's business model of subscriber-based revenue, tied to basic cable packages, is dying. These are just the death throes, and the fallout that comes next is really going to send major ripples through the sports world.

    They're hemorrhaging subscribers and they've got tons of really bad contracts for content that aren't going to bring in nearly enough eyeballs going forward.
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    Re: Bloodletting at ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    ESPN's business model of subscriber-based revenue, tied to basic cable packages, is dying. These are just the death throes, and the fallout that comes next is really going to send major ripples through the sports world.

    They're hemorrhaging subscribers and they've got tons of really bad contracts for content that aren't going to bring in nearly enough eyeballs going forward.
    Divorcing themselves from cable and going to a streaming model would work wonders for their bottom line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Divorcing themselves from cable and going to a streaming model would work wonders for their bottom line.
    In some ways they have, but streaming hasn't gotten the kinks worked out of it. In time though it will be the way to go.

    I'm starting to wonder more who's left at ESPN than who isn't.
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    Re: Bloodletting at ESPN

    Looks like they fired the entire hockey staff, all 2 of them.

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    Re: Bloodletting at ESPN

    Cordcutting is obviously driving this entire thing, but the fact that ESPN, outside of live sports, has become unwatchable helped speed up this collapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stray View Post
    Looks like they fired the entire hockey staff, all 2 of them.
    Barry Melrose survived.
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    I've read books about sparkling vampires who walk around in the daylight that were written better than a John Fay article.

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    Oh right, forgot about him lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Barry Melrose survived.
    When will we see Barry Melrose and Mel Kiper's hair in the same room together!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Divorcing themselves from cable and going to a streaming model would work wonders for their bottom line.
    Not really. ESPN's business model is dependent on non-sports viewers subsidizing the cost for sports viewers. You pay less because your grandmother (who only watches Fox News and the Weather Channel) pays for ESPN too as part of her basic cable package.

    If ESPN went strictly to a streaming model, they'd get slaughtered because costs would need to go up on subscribers to pay for all the lost revenue from the multitudes of grandmas and other non-sports viewers who might watch ESPN if they had it, but won't pay extra for the content -- and that's to say nothing about the lost revenue from decreased ad rates due to lost eyeballs. ESPN already charges everyone ~$8.50 as part of your cable for ESPN -- so you can only imagine how much ESPN would have to charge to maintain revenue from JUST people subscribing to ESPN.

    There's no way out for ESPN that doesn't involve massive cash losses for the Mouse Empire, at this point.
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    Re: Bloodletting at ESPN

    I think fewer shows about off season NFL workouts might be a good place to start. Talk more about the games and less about the off field stuff. Probably not enough 'names' people recognize on this list either. There are some sure, but get rid of some of the fluffy types and keep more of the journalist types.

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    Re: Bloodletting at ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Not really. ESPN's business model is dependent on non-sports viewers subsidizing the cost for sports viewers. You pay less because your grandmother (who only watches Fox News and the Weather Channel) pays for ESPN too as part of her basic cable package.

    If ESPN went strictly to a streaming model, they'd get slaughtered because costs would need to go up on subscribers to pay for all the lost revenue from the multitudes of grandmas and other non-sports viewers who might watch ESPN if they had it, but won't pay extra for the content -- and that's to say nothing about the lost revenue from decreased ad rates due to lost eyeballs. ESPN already charges everyone ~$8.50 as part of your cable for ESPN -- so you can only imagine how much ESPN would have to charge to maintain revenue from JUST people subscribing to ESPN.

    There's no way out for ESPN that doesn't involve massive cash losses for the Mouse Empire, at this point.
    But that's the point, that can't be their business model any longer. They are going to have to offer a pay streaming package. It doesn't have to be just that, they can still have their cable offering, but their has to be a way for cord cutters to buy just ESPN. I think they've stayed away from it to avoid conflict in their negotiations with the cable companies, but that time is over.

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    But that's the point, that can't be their business model any longer. They are going to have to offer a pay streaming package. It doesn't have to be just that, they can still have their cable offering, but their has to be a way for cord cutters to buy just ESPN. I think they've stayed away from it to avoid conflict in their negotiations with the cable companies, but that time is over.
    The point is that there is absolutely no sustainable business model for ESPN. Every decision they've made over the last decade has been with the idea of doing everything possible to make themselves indispensable for cable providers and then continuously raising their subscriber fees as a result (on the theory that "cable without ESPN won't sell). They're locked into some truly hideous rights deals right now -- with the NFL and the NBA especially. They can't go to a hybrid stream/cable solution because of their carriage agreements with cable providers, they can't go streaming only because there simply isn't enough revenue out there to offset their bad business deals.

    They're in a death spiral; the only thing saving them is that they're a subsidiary of a parent company that prints money with other ventures.
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