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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    Reds should have four of the first 80 or so selections. Give or take.

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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    Quote Originally Posted by Vander View Post
    Overhyped by fans. He has no position and is technically LOWER than a 20 runner. So, you'd think he'd have an epic bat, right? Well, it's good, but he hasn't performed with wood bats.

    So... No position. No speed. Questions on his bat. That's not very promising...
    With all the hype that surrounded his amazing bat about a year ago then it seem to dropping off a bit - where do you expect him to be take? Late 1st round based on reputation? Additionally, with him having no position, where would he have to slip to with you being OK with the Reds taking him? Comp B pick, 3rd round? Both seem unlikely.

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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    Just last year JJ Schwartz fell from a top five pick to a seventh rounder. Similar profile of strong college bat, but questionable athleticism, no real position, and unremarkable performance with wood. Beer having a similar fall wouldn't be unprecedented.
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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Just last year JJ Schwartz fell from a top five pick to a seventh rounder. Similar profile of strong college bat, but questionable athleticism, no real position, and unremarkable performance with wood. Beer having a similar fall wouldn't be unprecedented.
    Exactly this.

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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Just last year JJ Schwartz fell from a top five pick to a seventh rounder. Similar profile of strong college bat, but questionable athleticism, no real position, and unremarkable performance with wood. Beer having a similar fall wouldn't be unprecedented.
    They weren't similar bats, really.

    Beer had a 1235 OPS as a freshman and a 1084 as a sophomore. 126 walks and 62 strikeouts in his career through two years.

    Schwarz has a 1027 OPS as a freshman and an 853 OPS as a sophomore. He also had 73 walks and 100 strikeouts in his career through two years.

    Now, Schwarz was a catcher, so that probably helped his stock some after his freshman year - but he was never the hitter that Beer has been.

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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    They weren't similar bats, really.

    Beer had a 1235 OPS as a freshman and a 1084 as a sophomore. 126 walks and 62 strikeouts in his career through two years.

    Schwarz has a 1027 OPS as a freshman and an 853 OPS as a sophomore. He also had 73 walks and 100 strikeouts in his career through two years.

    Now, Schwarz was a catcher, so that probably helped his stock some after his freshman year - but he was never the hitter that Beer has been.
    True, they're not comparable hitters. But their situations are very similar.

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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    Reds have the 4th pick in Competitive Balance Round B, 73rd pick overall right now, pending free agent compensation.

    http://m.mlb.com/news/article/261996...icid=151437456
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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    “I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”

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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

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    Ryan Weathers at 15, looks just like his dad David.

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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    The Reds need a stud shortstop prospect in this draft.
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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    The Reds need a stud shortstop prospect in this draft.
    I wouldn't complain but there's no particular position that the Reds should be passing up. I think a polished college pitcher would be a great get.
    “I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”

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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

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    The Reds need a stud shortstop prospect in this draft.
    Seems to be a glut (this year, last year) of HS talent at the very top end. There was a period when everyone wanted college players, but that doesn't seem true now.

    If the best talent is a HS kid Reds must go BPA. Position is utterly irrelevant. Looking 4-5 years ahead with a teenage draft choice, you don't look to fill holes.

    If the Reds go for a mature college player in the first few rounds, they can focus a bit more on organizational need.

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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    I get the feeling that this early, it's impossible to know who the pick even might be. Having said that, it will be interesting to watch Madrigal. But I never pick the right guy when the list first comes out. Maybe Seth Beer will learn to play shortstop.
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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Just last year JJ Schwartz fell from a top five pick to a seventh rounder. Similar profile of strong college bat, but questionable athleticism, no real position, and unremarkable performance with wood. Beer having a similar fall wouldn't be unprecedented.
    So due to lack of hops in his legs, enthusiasm for Beer which was once leaving us frothing at the lips now has been bottled up and is flat.

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    Re: Looking ahead to the 2018 draft class

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    So due to lack of hops in his legs, enthusiasm for Beer which was once leaving us frothing at the lips now has been bottled up and is flat.
    That pun is barley up to par for this board.
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