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    Re: Hunter Greene

    Well, that was fun to watch, wasn't it?

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    Re: Hunter Greene

    http://www.baseballamerica.com/minor...XMg8bFFoVRk.97

    More info on Greene's spectacular start.

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    Re: Hunter Greene

    Quote Originally Posted by Vander View Post
    http://www.baseballamerica.com/minor...XMg8bFFoVRk.97

    More info on Greene's spectacular start.
    The 18-year-old’s fastball sat between 98-101 mph on Saturday morning, and only dipped below that range once, when he touched 97. Moreover, the pitch featured devastating cutting life.
    Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/minor...Yx4hVJhgi0L.99
    We knew the fastball was elite. The life is awesome to see. (Ditto the offspeed stuff, even if it is inconsistent at this point.)

    It will be fascinating to see where Greene ranks among the Reds' top 10. I'd guess number two behind Senzel, but if his stuff continues to become more consistent, watch out.

    (I also love that he works fast.)

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    Man, that was impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vander View Post
    I enjoyed the post in the comment section:

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    This guy is the closest thing I seen to Doc Gooden well, since Doc Gooden. Looks like the Reds will be holding a future ace in their hand.

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    Re: Hunter Greene

    After watching that video my immediate reaction is that we should all chip in and send Raisel Iglesias a fruit basket or something to say thank you for blowing the save in game #162.

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    So, the prospect poll has me thinking about Hunter Greene and his value. I think Greene is really hyped and his value is sky high right now, but I keep losing enthusiasm because he just seems so far away. This kid basically sat out his senior season in high school and most of the hype is based on his performance before that. What is a realistic timeline for Greene? I'm thinking if he follows a reasonable progression for such a young kid and spends a year or so adjusting to the big leagues (taking lumps), it will probably be 2023 or 2024 before he's performing at the level of Ace starting pitcher (assuming that happens for him). That means before the Reds start realizing any benefit at the big league level, not only will Votto be old and gone, but Senzel will probably have been dealt away as a 3rd year arb guy or possibly already gone as a free agent.

    If the entire point of the tanking/rebuilding cycle is to assemble a championship caliber team instead of one that merely competes every year, I want to extract the massive value that goes with Greene's hype while Votto and Senzel are producing. IMO, the only way to do that is by trading him for somebody who makes an impact. IMO, his value won't ever be any higher than right now. If he has even a slight hiccup as a minor leaguer (and it would be almost impossible not to) that value will drop IMO.

    So, those more in the know, when can we expect to see Greene pitching at a high level in Cincinnati? Will he arrive in 2020? 2021? Seems pretty fast for this kid to me. If he can arrive sooner, why do you think so?
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    When? About the time the current group of young pitchers approaches free agency and becomes too expensive to retain. How far away he is doesn't bother me as much as the possibility that he may not make it all. The Reds need to keep the pipeline stocked with quality prospects at every level if they are to avoid boom or bust cycles.

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    I have zero problem moving Hunter in the right deal. I'd move him in a Chris Archer deal tomorrow.

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    Re: Hunter Greene

    If I had to guess, we will probably see Greene in Cincinnati at some point in 2021. I wouldn't deal him now - if anything wait until next offseason if the Reds look better in 2018 and are ready to supercharge the squad.

    For the most part I would just make him untouchable. The Reds need more marquee players, especially pitchers. Greene is the perfect storm of talent and marketability. I don't care if we have to wait, or whether or not he lines up with the Votto window anymore.

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    Re: Hunter Greene

    I've said it since he was drafted.. If the Reds were bold and wanted to contend sooner rather than later while they have Votto, Senzel, and Suarez all in the same lineup, they need to sign a solid FA pitcher, and dangle Greene in a deal for a young, controlled Ace.

    Adding 2 established arms through trade and FA would allow them to not rely on oft injured Bailey and Disco. Pair the 2 with an emerging Castillo, and the last 2 spots can go to Bailey/Disco if they're able to pitch well. If they can, it pushes other good arms like Finnegan to the pen, where he may best be suited anyway, and buys time for kids like Romano or Mahle to polish their game in AAA until a need for them arises. If they can't? Well, it's easier to patch 2 holes in a rotation with emerging kids than it is 4 or more.

    Let someone else take on the risk of Greene right now, and let's push the ML team. It would take guts and creativity, but I think it could be done.
    "I hate to advocate chemicals, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone... But they've always worked for me."

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    Re: Hunter Greene

    I really hope this place doesn’t spend the next 4-5 years trying to trade Hunter Greene. He’s not going anywhere.

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    Re: Hunter Greene

    Quote Originally Posted by cincyinco View Post
    I've said it since he was drafted.. If the Reds were bold and wanted to contend sooner rather than later while they have Votto, Senzel, and Suarez all in the same lineup, they need to sign a solid FA pitcher, and dangle Greene in a deal for a young, controlled Ace.

    Adding 2 established arms through trade and FA would allow them to not rely on oft injured Bailey and Disco. Pair the 2 with an emerging Castillo, and the last 2 spots can go to Bailey/Disco if they're able to pitch well. If they can, it pushes other good arms like Finnegan to the pen, where he may best be suited anyway, and buys time for kids like Romano or Mahle to polish their game in AAA until a need for them arises. If they can't? Well, it's easier to patch 2 holes in a rotation with emerging kids than it is 4 or more.

    Let someone else take on the risk of Greene right now, and let's push the ML team. It would take guts and creativity, but I think it could be done.
    It's so simple, I just don't get why people don't see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    It's so simple, I just don't get why people don't see it.
    Because some people want to be good in 2023, too, and think that Greene is a big key to actually being able to do that.

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    I think the hope would be that Hunter Greene would quickly ascend to the major and dominate from the get go, ala a Jose Fernandez type ascend and career. If they don't expect him to be contributing until 2023 or 2024 they should deal him ASAP.
    "Today was the byproduct of us thinking we can come back from anything." - Joey Votto after blowing a 10-1 lead and holding on for the 12-11 win on 8/25/2010.

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