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    CB Vontae Davis practiced in full today, a Wednesday, which anyone knicked usually gets a Limited tag. So, Davis must be fully healthy.

    With Doug Baldwin sitting out today and tomorrow to try get his groin healed, I would keep Vontae on one side of the field instead of shadowing Baldwin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    CB Vontae Davis practiced in full today, a Wednesday, which anyone knicked usually gets a Limited tag. So, Davis must be fully healthy.

    With Doug Baldwin sitting out today and tomorrow to try get his groin healed, I would keep Vontae on one side of the field instead of shadowing Baldwin.
    Rashaan Melvin has been one of the top corners every week according to Profootball focus so no need to move Davis around to shadow a top receiver. I think Davis may be in his last year with Colts with the emergence of Melvin and the solid play of rookie Wilson, Davis is fine but the best ability is availability and he's seemingly always dinged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfanmia View Post
    Rashaan Melvin has been one of the top corners every week according to Profootball focus so no need to move Davis around to shadow a top receiver. I think Davis may be in his last year with Colts with the emergence of Melvin and the solid play of rookie Wilson, Davis is fine but the best ability is availability and he's seemingly always dinged.
    Well, with that kind of Cornerback play, they have the ability to keep them in games until Luck gets back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Well, with that kind of Cornerback play, they have the ability to keep them in games until Luck gets back.
    Which is beginning to look farther and farther off into the future. If Luck plays by week 10 I would be impressed by now. They expect him back in practice this week or next, he still needs to build up shoulder strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Which is beginning to look farther and farther off into the future. If Luck plays by week 10 I would be impressed by now. They expect him back in practice this week or next, he still needs to build up shoulder strength.
    I'm actually not upset, let Luck get healthy and let Briaset play well and build trade value.
    When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.

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    Vontae Davis has been stellar the last three games giving up only 8/76/0 over that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Vontae Davis has been stellar the last three games giving up only 8/76/0 over that time.
    From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

    ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Colts are receiving "inquiries" on CB Vontae Davis ahead of Tuesday's trade deadline.

    Per Schefter, the Colts have spoken with "at least two teams" about a potential swap. Once considered a true shutdown corner, the 29-year-old now looks well past his prime, earning PFF's No. 77 grade out of 109 qualifiers at cornerback this year. The former first-rounder's contract expires at the end of 2017.

    Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter



    That "77" ranking is misleading. He missed the first three games. His first game back was bad 5/107/0 (going by memory here, but that's almost exactly what he gave up). If PFF does their rankings like the used to before making them "exclusive" to NCAA Coaches and NFL teams, then your ranking can be distorted based on negative volume or positive volume. I have a hard time believing that his last three games were graded in the lower third/quarter among all qualified CB's. If I had a subscription like I used to have, I could filter just the last three weeks.

    Either way, a lot of teams could use him...the Eagles, Cowboys, Patriots, Raiders, just to name a few.
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    Re: 2017 Indianapolis Colts

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

    ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Colts are receiving "inquiries" on CB Vontae Davis ahead of Tuesday's trade deadline.

    Per Schefter, the Colts have spoken with "at least two teams" about a potential swap. Once considered a true shutdown corner, the 29-year-old now looks well past his prime, earning PFF's No. 77 grade out of 109 qualifiers at cornerback this year. The former first-rounder's contract expires at the end of 2017.

    Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter



    That "77" ranking is misleading. He missed the first three games. His first game back was bad 5/107/0 (going by memory here, but that's almost exactly what he gave up). If PFF does their rankings like the used to before making them "exclusive" to NCAA Coaches and NFL teams, then your ranking can be distorted based on negative volume or positive volume. I have a hard time believing that his last three games were graded in the lower third/quarter among all qualified CB's. If I had a subscription like I used to have, I could filter just the last three weeks.

    Either way, a lot of teams could use him...the Eagles, Cowboys, Patriots, Raiders, just to name a few.
    Any rumors as to what the Colts would be getting in return?
    ...and this one belongs to the Reds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    Any rumors as to what the Colts would be getting in return?
    I would think he would bring a 5th or 6th.
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    No point at all in bringing Luck back this year, even with the remote chance he's actually healthy.

    It was unrealistic to expect Ballard to fix this mess in one year, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revering4Blue View Post
    No point at all in bringing Luck back this year, even with the remote chance he's actually healthy.

    It was unrealistic to expect Ballard to fix this mess in one year, anyway.
    I say tank!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ...and this one belongs to the Reds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revering4Blue View Post
    No point at all in bringing Luck back this year, even with the remote chance he's actually healthy.

    It was unrealistic to expect Ballard to fix this mess in one year, anyway.
    I think you need to play Luck if he is healthy enough just so you don’t have to go all off season answering the Luck question, I’m starting to wonder if he is coming back not when.
    When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfanmia View Post
    I think you need to play Luck if he is healthy enough just so you don’t have to go all off season answering the Luck question, I’m starting to wonder if he is coming back not when.
    Good point.
    ...and this one belongs to the Reds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    I say tank!!!!!!!!!!!!
    They can just trot Tolzein out there to achieve that "goal."

    All kidding aside, it's a lost season..let's face it. What we witnessed today -- spirited effort and falling just short -- is very likely what we'll see the rest of the season.

    What I DON"T want to see is a disaster like last week's game against the Jags week after week, even if the result is the top pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfanmia View Post
    I think you need to play Luck if he is healthy enough just so you don’t have to go all off season answering the Luck question, I’m starting to wonder if he is coming back not when.
    Then send him out there for a quarter in the season finale. It's not worth him getting re-injured in a lost season. If they're not sure that they can count on Luck by opening day '18, then, sadly, the franchise should realistically operate long-term under the pretense that he's unavailable.

    Honestly, this franchise, more or less, mirrors the Reds:

    - Both have wasted prime years from their franchise players.

    - Both waited too long to implement crucial organizational strategies: Beginning a rebuild (Reds) and (Colts) holding on to both a GM and HC too long.

    Should this team begin to tank, the comparison will have come full circle.
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