What has Hunter Greene done to crave attention? Someone is complaining about a few instagram posts, posts in which this person went and sought out. Greene isn't using the media to garner attention. He has said all the right things so far. Also, the whole "extracting" money thing is weird to me. The whole system is set up to purposefully put a cap on what teams will pay a guy like Hunter Greene. If the "cap" wasn't in place he would get well north of $20M.
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I guess we know which will be the first Hunter Greene thread to be locked and not for hitting 1000 + posts.
"Extracting" was used by Dick Williams. I was just repeating what he said.
Look Greene has been all over the media. Not many high school draftees have gotten the attention he has. Now, I am not criticizing him for it.. Good for him.
At the same time, this is why I do not follow athletes on social media. I really do not want to read inspirational quotes from a 19 year old, who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has not even experienced real life yet.. It is just silly. Now maybe those quotes are useful to kids his own age. I do not resent him at all.. We are just at different stages in life.
The main point of my post was that this is not a racial thing.. I Do not follow any athletes on social media for these reasons. Not even BP, who I was a huge fan of.
I do not hate Greene. I was annoyed he waited until 5 minutes before the deadline to sign. But I would have been annoyed if he was white too.
And I did not mean to start a debate about whether Jeter was black or white.. The point is that Greene and Jeter do crave the spotlight a lot.. And there is not necessarily anything wrong with that.. If it annoys someone, then I agree.. best not to follow attention seekers on social media.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
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[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
I guess for me, I was really scratching my head that Williams and the FO had no clue until five minutes before the deadline whether or not Greene would sign. Seems to me, if you have the #2 pick in the draft, you better make sure you can sign him BEFORE you call his name. I'm at a loss as to how it got to that point.
What changed that caused the delay in signing him? Did he quote a number and the Reds thought they could talk him down and so they were low-balling him? Or did he give them one number before the draft, but then jacked up that number after the draft?
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Just because he is getting media attention doesn't mean he is craving media attention. Those are not the same thing. Should he turn away the chance to be on sports illustrated? Should he refuse to do interviews and then be judged that way? I would say Ocho-Cinco craved media attention and got it. Joey Votto gets media attention but doesn't crave it whatsoever. Aaron Judge has had all sorts of media attention this year. Does he crave it too? It doesn't seem to me like he does, he seems like a pretty humble dude for the success he has had as a rookie.
I also find it weird you claim Hunter Greene was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. What details of his up-bringing lead you to believe this? Growing up in a well to do family means nothing in terms of a person's character or work ethic. It doesn't automatically mean Hunter was spoiled, entitled, etc. Sure he has had plenty of opportunities to develop and train that tons of kids don't get, but that doesn't mean he doesn't bust his tail training. Paying for training doesn't automatically make you better either. It seems to me like he was raised well by his parents and is an overall likable 18 year old who is really good at baseball. What am I missing here?
https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/04/24/hu...eene-mlb-draft
He launched a sock drive this winter for the homeless in downtown Los Angeles, after reading an article about a shortage, then handed out 2,300 pairs on Skid Row. He has received four certificates of recognition from L.A.-area politicians for his community service efforts.
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"Today was the byproduct of us thinking we can come back from anything." - Joey Votto after blowing a 10-1 lead and holding on for the 12-11 win on 8/25/2010.
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I am just going by what Dick Williams himself said. That may be the reason Minnesota did not pick Greene (I am speculating)
The Reds gave him an offer (don't know if it was a pre-arranged deal or not).. The Greenes continued to try to get more until about 5 minutes before the deadline. Williams did say that they made Greene a final offer and he had no idea if Greene was going to accept until 5 minutes before the deadline and mentioned the Greenes constantly trying to extract more money from the Reds.
I mean, it seems logical that Greene was going to sign.. as someone else said, he basically kept himself in bubble wrap all of his senior season, so why would he risk pitching in college?
OTOH, we know from hindsight, that Greene's camp was going to drag it out to the last minute, trying to get "a little more".
I said this earlier.. I wish the Reds had hardballed him more, because it did potentially cost us other signings.
Like give him a deadline 3 days before the deadline.
Dick Williams already said <paraphrased> they reached the point where the Reds had to make a "Take it or leave it" offer or Greene would continue to extract more from the Reds.
It was selfish of Greene to drag it out to the last minute, IMO of course.
I know others say it is fine.
Last edited by REDREAD; 09-19-2017 at 02:55 PM.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
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