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    Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    According to BR, his 2018 WAR was 3.5.

    Over/under for 2019: 3.5


    I say over.

    Bounce back year in power/slugging will yield an OPS+ that is closer to his insane career average (155) than last year's still excellent 125...yielding a higher WAR.


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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    At 3.5 I'll take an easy over. Setting it at 4 or 4.5 would have given me much more pause.

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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    Over
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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    I'll be the first to go Under

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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    I'll go with under as well.
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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    Over

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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    I'll cautiously take the over.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    If there’s bragging rights associated with being “right” the under may be the smart play, as you win with a poor performance or an injury.

    The question to me is, what WAR does Votto put up if he plays a full season?

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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    Over. I think Votto has another nice year in him.
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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    There is always what I hope will happen (over) and what I think will happen (under).

    And I don’t like to predict because I seem to have the power to affect reality. At least I delude myself to think that.
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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    slightly over, as in between 3.5 and 4, but not because of his hitting. He’ll do like .300/.420/.450, but his fielding will be a lot worse next year than it was this year, he actually was better than he usually is in his defensive WAR this year.

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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    Assuming health, easy over.

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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    Quote Originally Posted by Rijo's Ghost View Post
    Assuming health, easy over.
    Same.

    Every year Votto has been healthy, he's oWAR'd over 5, essentially, with 2 exceptions: his rookie year, and last year. So, for now, last year is an outlier to me, not the latest in an emerging trend.

    Removing 2009 (rookie year), 2014 (over half the year lost to injury), and 2018, Votto's oWAR by year, from b-ref:

    5.0
    6.7
    5.8
    4.8 (admittedly, less than 5, but accomplished in 110 games, an injury shortened year where Votto was on MVP pace)
    6.1
    7.0
    5.5
    6.4

    And on top of that, let's remember that Baseball Savant's xWOBA/xOPS numbers made Votto one of last year's most freakishly unlucky hitters. Based on the quality of his contact, he "should" have been among the top 5% of hitters (source: https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savan...-r-hitting-mlb ), and if I knew how to translate that into xWAR, I would.

    But I don't.

    So I won't.

    But I sort of guess it would be closer to 5.

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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

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    Re: Votto's WAR in 2019, Over/Under

    Over if heathy.


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