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    Re: 2019 Cleveland Browns...We're back !!

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    You’re crazy
    Yep.

    Going from Eli Manning to Baker Mayfield. Having his best friend opposite him on the field. The Browns are built to win now but I wouldn’t be surprised if they screw it up.
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    Re: 2019 Cleveland Browns...We're back !!

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    You’re crazy
    I'm concerned about the deal, not upset about it. Like Antonio Brown, when OBJ is happy he is one of the best receivers in the business. Also like Brown, when he is unhappy he can be a disruptive presence and I can easily see him trying to force his way out. Let's face the truth, Cleveland is one of the least glamorous landing spots for a professional athlete. I doubt the trade helps OBJ from a marketing standpoint, and make no mistake that he's aware of that.
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    On paper the Browns made one heck of a move. I am curious to see how everything meshes together. Odell has always seemed more bluster than production in his career. Will he and Baker be able to share the spotlight in Cleveland?

    I am interested it seeing what Mayfield's development looks like this season. He showed flashes of being a good QB last season, but if you look at his games, he did most of his damage against bad teams.

    If I am a Cleveland fan I am excited about this upcoming season. As an outsider, they look dangerous, but I think there needs to be a little bit of caution.

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    Re: 2019 Cleveland Browns...We're back !!

    Quote Originally Posted by puca View Post
    I'm concerned about the deal, not upset about it. Like Antonio Brown, when OBJ is happy he is one of the best receivers in the business. Also like Brown, when he is unhappy he can be a disruptive presence and I can easily see him trying to force his way out. Let's face the truth, Cleveland is one of the least glamorous landing spots for a professional athlete. I doubt the trade helps OBJ from a marketing standpoint, and make no mistake that he's aware of that.
    Believe it or not, the Browns are becoming a 'sexy option' in the NFL. He's fully marketable in Cleveland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puca View Post
    Let's face the truth, Cleveland is one of the least glamorous landing spots for a professional athlete. I doubt the trade helps OBJ from a marketing standpoint, and make no mistake that he's aware of that.
    You're not wrong but the NFL is different. You can be a good/great player on a team that's not in a big market and still get commercials and be on talk shows. During football season, watch the commercials featuring professional athletes. The vast majority of athletes in those commercials are NFL players. It's not just the guys from New York or Dallas or LA. Plus OBJ is already a known quantity from when he was with the Giants. If LeBron can be a star in CLE, so can OBJ. Plus there is less media scrutiny in CLE than there is in NYC. His every move won't be watched and scrutinized like it has been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    You're not wrong but the NFL is different. You can be a good/great player on a team that's not in a big market and still get commercials and be on talk shows. During football season, watch the commercials featuring professional athletes. The vast majority of athletes in those commercials are NFL players. It's not just the guys from New York or Dallas or LA. Plus OBJ is already a known quantity from when he was with the Giants. If LeBron can be a star in CLE, so can OBJ. Plus there is less media scrutiny in CLE than there is in NYC. His every move won't be watched and scrutinized like it has been.
    The Browns will absolutely be a media circus this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    The Browns will absolutely be a media circus this season.
    In training camp, perhaps. But the national media isn't going to camp out in CLE the entire season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    You're not wrong but the NFL is different. You can be a good/great player on a team that's not in a big market and still get commercials and be on talk shows. During football season, watch the commercials featuring professional athletes. The vast majority of athletes in those commercials are NFL players. It's not just the guys from New York or Dallas or LA. Plus OBJ is already a known quantity from when he was with the Giants. If LeBron can be a star in CLE, so can OBJ. Plus there is less media scrutiny in CLE than there is in NYC. His every move won't be watched and scrutinized like it has been.
    The two NFL players whom you see most often in commercials are probably Aaron Rodgers, who plays in Green Bay, and retired Peyton Manning, who played in Indy and in Denver. They are/were QBs, not receivers, but playing in relatively smaller NFL cities didn't hurt their ability to get commercials and talk show gigs. If you a MLB player you need to be in a big market, as Mike Trout demonstrates. That isn't as important in the NFL.
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    Re: 2019 Cleveland Browns...We're back !!

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    On paper the Browns made one heck of a move. I am curious to see how everything meshes together. Odell has always seemed more bluster than production in his career. Will he and Baker be able to share the spotlight in Cleveland?

    I am interested it seeing what Mayfield's development looks like this season. He showed flashes of being a good QB last season, but if you look at his games, he did most of his damage against bad teams.

    If I am a Cleveland fan I am excited about this upcoming season. As an outsider, they look dangerous, but I think there needs to be a little bit of caution.
    Wait. A rookie QB was better against bad teams? No way.
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    I'm thinking about switching to the Browns. I live in Cleveland now. The Bengals haven't brought me an ounce of joy my entire life. I likely won't live in Cincinnati again. The Bengals just gave like $25M to one of the worst linemen in the league. The Browns just traded for OBJ and appear to have actual adults running the football operation now.

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    Your AFC North Champion Cleveland Browns.


    That's their floor every year for the next five years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed27 View Post
    I'm thinking about switching to the Browns. I live in Cleveland now. The Bengals haven't brought me an ounce of joy my entire life. I likely won't live in Cincinnati again. The Bengals just gave like $25M to one of the worst linemen in the league. The Browns just traded for OBJ and appear to have actual adults running the football operation now.


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    I've never hated the Browns, having never lived in Cincinnati. In fact, I rooted for the Browns and the Colts the first year they switched to the AFC, but that dissipated quickly as it was the same season I decided to be a Bengals' fan. I have given a lifetime of support to the Bengals...50 years, so I will make my switch to another franchise for the next 40 years after some careful thought.

    There are a lot of candidates:

    Raiders were until they went stupid and gave Gruden that contract.

    Eagles have always been my favorite NFL/NFC franchise, so they are my leading candidate.

    Cleveland, as they are named after Paul Brown, whom I respect a lot, with Cleveland being an original football city like Philadelphia.

    Minnesota, as I really like Zimmer and have always liked the Vikings.

    Definitely not Seattle...was force-fed them for too many years and it ruined the franchise for me.

    The Chargers...just a lot to always like about them, plus the West Coast team I like the most.

    The Jaguars because I like their Owner.
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    Cleveland gets a fresh Kareem Hunt midway through the season. They were basically handed a free roster spot to stash an All-Pro game-changer.

    Wow!

    It just keeps trending upwards for the Browns.
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    Re: 2019 Cleveland Browns...We're back !!

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRed27 View Post
    I'm thinking about switching to the Browns. I live in Cleveland now. The Bengals haven't brought me an ounce of joy my entire life. I likely won't live in Cincinnati again. The Bengals just gave like $25M to one of the worst linemen in the league. The Browns just traded for OBJ and appear to have actual adults running the football operation now.
    Where did you end up moving in the Cleveland area?
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