I am not advocating on trading away any of those players. They are all FA after this season and at minimum value. I have no problem with trying to trade and be competitive this year or years to come but you can't trade prospects for 1,2,3 year old contracts and expect to consistently win each year. The plan was to rebuild or reboot, not draft high and trade away for expiring contracts, veterans with their best years behind them and throw away the last 5 years of the plan. Who cares about attendance and 1984?? Attendance will be down from that era no matter what type of team is on the field. Every game is on television, baseball is not the number one sport anymore, the cost to watch a game in person for a family of four is a lot more expensive than it was 35 years ago. If the Reds trade their top prospect/s for Kluber they are still 1/2 in and 1/2 out after this year...that's what I am saying. The rebuild was botched by BC who was worried about attendance and fan perception. He botched the rebuild trades by not going full rebuild and had one foot in and one out to appease the fans/season ticket holders/sponsors. I have gone through this once before and the Reds are about to see the light at the end of the tunnel and now most people are saying let's trade x,y,and z and get these players for a year or two so we can compete for a wild card. You trade your top prospects if you are ready to win a division or a WS, not a wild card spot. The 1990 WS would not have been possible if the Reds traded away the "crown jewels" in the mid to late 80's. Larkin, O'Neil, Browning, Sabo, Davis, etc. They traded a veteran (Parker) for Rijo, young talent (depth) Stillwell for Jackson and got two good starting pitchers in return....this was after a couple of 2nd place finishes in the division.