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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    That does sound ugly. I don't get why the players would be responsible for their rooms. That should be between the hotel and the ones who booked it (the teams). If I'm on a business trip, I'm not giving the hotel my credit card
    This is going to get nasty. The owners of the teams, all probably had DEEP pockets, will get sued, and should get sued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    This is going to get nasty. The owners of the teams, all probably had DEEP pockets, will get sued, and should get sued.
    They're protected. They'll say their corporation has no money. It'll make no difference what these rich folks have in the bank. I'm sure they protected themselves thru the use of LLCs or whatever.

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    Re: Alliance of American Football

    From what I understood, the teams did not have individual owners. Every franchise was owned by the league.

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    In a suit filed Friday, Robert Vanech, the co-founder and current CFO of Trebel Music, said he had a "handshake agreement" with Ebersol that was violated. Vanech is seeking financial damages, equity in the league and "public acknowledgment of his co-founding role." He says he should have 50 percent ownership of the league.
    http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/...eague-was-idea

    I wonder if this guy still wants 50% of the league? I'd say let him have it and he can be responsible for 50% of its obligations now

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    Not sure if it was in the links, but I heard on local radio here Orlando Apollos owed UCF 1 million in stadium fees and a local hotel (Apparently they stayed in Jax a lot), for almost all their nights.

    When dealing with an org like this?...... Get your money upfront
    The lowest acceptable payroll amount for ownership to show they are not greedy pigs is 15 million more than they are currently paying. No matter what that currently is.

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    Re: Alliance of American Football

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    When dealing with an org like this?...... Get your money upfront
    Or at least a personal guaranty from one of the monied backers.

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    Re: Alliance of American Football

    Seriously I'm wondering what didn't go according to plan? They knew what their expenses would be. They knew what money they were getting from CBS and all. What threw this out of whack?

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    The AAF sought a merger with the XFL but Vince turned them down.

    https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...odies/AAF.aspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    The AAF sought a merger with the XFL but Vince turned them down.

    https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...odies/AAF.aspx
    If Vince is smart he'll go hard after the San Antonio market.

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    One of the original investors of the AAF, Reggie Fowler, has been arrested on fraud charges.

    https://thecomeback.com/nfl/aaf-orig...tv-demise.html
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    Interesting that this league not only didn't get money from being on tv, it actually was paying these networks to carry them. No wonder they could get by on so little commercial time. This is a horrible business model. I wonder if XFL is also paying networks to carry their games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    We'll see where this league goes. Their model of showing it on CBS primetime with a minimal amount of commercials is not sustainable. I liked the pace of the game but the actual athleticism was inferior to what you'd see in a major college football game like Clemson vs Alabama. It's completely out of the question to even compare it to an NFL game.

    The game I saw had Bengal reject Logan Woodside QBing. He couldn't even be a backup at most major college schools like Alabama or Ohio State.
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    I think they'll get the NFL's blessing and cooperation but will they get subsidized financially? That's the question. I have my doubts that this league can be self sustaining

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    Re: Alliance of American Football

    Wait, all football leagues, except the NFL, have failed since the 60s, and you are pounding your chest saying I told you so? I think it would have been a much larger shock, if it worked.
    WHEN DOES IT STOP!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z-Fly View Post
    Wait, all football leagues, except the NFL, have failed since the 60s, and you are pounding your chest saying I told you so? I think it would have been a much larger shock, if it worked.
    There was a little football league called the AFL that did pretty well too.
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    Re: Alliance of American Football

    Quote Originally Posted by Z-Fly View Post
    Wait, all football leagues, except the NFL, have failed since the 60s, and you are pounding your chest saying I told you so? I think it would have been a much larger shock, if it worked.
    Are you talking to me or the mouse in your pocket? Do you have anything to say about football or just negative personal comments?

    What this league did was nothing special. I figured (incorrectly) that they secured national tv deals that gave them an income stream. That was not the case. Apparently they paid these networks to have their games on the air. Well anyone with deep pockets can do that but it's not a sustainable business model.

    So I ask, does XFL have a tv deal that'll give them an income stream?


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