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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAce View Post
    Then the reds have done a great job of hoodwinking the city and fans

    If all they need to do is turn a hellacious product into a crappy one to appease everyone
    They had a terrible MLB team for years. They weren’t going to turn it into a solid, winning team in one off season. Anyone who thought they could has been hoodwinked, imo.
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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    They had a terrible MLB team for years. They weren’t going to turn it into a solid, winning team in one off season. Anyone who thought they could has been hoodwinked, imo.
    I don’t see any of the recent moves as moves that indicate they will continue to build upward and sustain better play YoY

    Wood and puig are half year rentals

    Sonny is a #4

    Next year they are going to be 95 loss club again without drastic moves

    Paul Goldschmidt for 5 years on that contact. That will set the cards up to win and really compete (like they already always do)
    Last edited by RedAce; 03-31-2019 at 12:41 PM.

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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAce View Post
    I don’t see any of the recent moves as moves that indicate they will continue to build upward and sustain better play YoY

    Wood and puig are half year rentals

    Sonny is a #4

    Next year they are going to be 95 loss club again without drastic moves

    Paul Goldschmidt for 5 years on that contact. That will set the cards up to win and really compete (like they already always do)
    Sounds like you should be a Cardinals fan. Or maybe you already are?

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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAce View Post
    I don’t see any of the recent moves as moves that indicate they will continue to build upward and sustain better play YoY

    Wood and puig are half year rentals

    Sonny is a #4

    Next year they are going to be 95 loss club again without drastic moves

    Paul Goldschmidt for 5 years on that contact. That will set the cards up to win and really compete (like they already always do)
    They made the moves this offseason without giving up much in terms of prospects, or adding payroll.

    They could easily make similar moves next season, or even this mid season.
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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by redsman2007 View Post
    Sounds like you should be a Cardinals fan. Or maybe you already are?
    Anyone who thinks that was a good trade and extension is a cards fan.

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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    They made the moves this offseason without giving up much in terms of prospects, or adding payroll.

    They could easily make similar moves next season, or even this mid season.
    And once they lose the players and make another similar set of moves in 2020

    They still play 74-77 win ball

    Their upside is nil

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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAce View Post
    Anyone who thinks that was a good trade and extension is a cards fan.
    No one said that.

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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAce View Post
    And once they lose the players and make another similar set of moves in 2020

    They still play 74-77 win ball

    Their upside is nil
    They have prospects coming up and developing to add to the mix. Also, once they feel like they have a soldi base, they can start making more aggressive moves. They still have a lot of bullets in their chamber.

    The organization is well situated for future success.
    Last edited by 757690; 03-31-2019 at 01:04 PM.
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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    They made the moves this offseason without giving up much in terms of prospects, or adding payroll.

    They could easily make similar moves next season, or even this mid season.
    And would still be below .500. The entire point is they need to make moves to actually win, not minimally fill holes. .
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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by RedAce View Post
    And once they lose the players and make another similar set of moves in 2020

    They still play 74-77 win ball

    Their upside is nil
    They will also have a ton of money to spend to extend those players or sign others. Plus two best position player prospects will likely be ready later this year and next.

    What moves do you suggest the Reds make with the extra money and in trades at the deadline and I. The off-season?

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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Disagree. The Cardinals got an MVP caliber guy to address their problems. The first base equivalent to what the Reds did is Chris Cron or Yonder Alonso, not the guy who is probably the best bat in the NL. The fact that the Cardinals got it done and "it didn't work out" for the Reds is the exact difference being pointed out.
    Rumor is that the Reds made a credible run at trading for James Paxton.
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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Rumor is that the Reds made a credible run at trading for James Paxton.
    That’ll sell tickets

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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Rumor is that the Reds made a credible run at trading for James Paxton.
    And Kluber and Bauer.
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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Rumor is that the Reds made a credible run at trading for James Paxton.
    Yeah. I remember when I almost won the lottery. Only missed by 5 little numbers.
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    Re: Cards extend Goldschmidt 5 years 110 mil

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Yeah. I remember when I almost won the lottery. Only missed by 5 little numbers.
    Terrible analogy. Lottery is pure luck. Pulling off a trade involves many other people acting in concert with you and your needs. The fact that they were able to make other positive moves should instil hope that they are able to make bigger ones.
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