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    Kinsm's 2019 Cincinnati Reds Roster Syllabus

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    2019 Cincinnati Reds Opening Day 40 Man Roster Payroll
    *** Roster is Currently Full as of 3/28/2019***


    ---Rotation---
    (5) 25 Man:
    RHSP - Sonny Gray - $ 7,500,000
    RHSP - Tanner Roark - $ 10,000,000
    RHSP - Anthony DeSclafani - $ 2,125,000
    RHSP - Luis Castillo - $ 575,000 (prorated minor league minimum of $ 90,400 if/when on optional assignment)
    RHSP - Tyler Mahle - $ 570,000 (prorated minor league minimum of $ 90,400 if/when on optional assignment)

    (3) 40 Man - Reserve:
    RHSP - Lucas Sims - $ 90,400 (prorated major league minimum of $ 555,000 if/when on active 25 man roster)
    RHSP - Keury Mella - $ 90,400 (prorated major league minimum of $ 555,000 if/when on active 25 man roster)
    RHSP - Jose Lopez - $ 90,400 (prorated major league minimum of $ 555,000 if/when on active 25 man roster)

    ---Bullpen---
    (8) 25 Man:
    LHRP - Zach Duke - $ 2,000,000
    RHRP - David Hernandez- $ 2,500,000
    RHRP - Jared Hughes - $ 2,125,000
    RHRP - Michael Lorenzen - $ 1,950,000
    RHRP - Raisel Iglesias - $ 6,000,000
    LHRP - Wandy Peralta - $ 570,000 (prorated minor league minimum of $ 90,400 if/when on optional assignment)
    LHRP - Amir Garrett - $ 567,500 (prorated minor league minimum of $ 90,400 if/when on optional assignment)
    RHRP - Robert Stephenson - $ 565,000 (prorated minor league minimum of $ 90,400 if/when on optional assignment)

    (6) 40 Man - Reserve:
    RHRP - Matt Bowman - $ 90,400 (prorated major league minimum of $ 562,500 if/when on active 25 man roster)
    RHSP - Sal Romano - $ 90,400 (prorated major league minimum of $ 565,000 if/when on active 25 man roster)
    LHRP - Cody Reed - $ 90,400 (prorated major league minimum of $ 560,000 if/when on active 25 man roster)
    RHRP - Jackson Stephens - $ 90,400 (prorated major league minimum of $ 555,000 if/when on active 25 man roster)
    RHRP - Jesus Reyes - $ 90,400 (prorated major league minimum of $ 555,000 if/when on active 25 man roster)
    RHRP - Jimmy Herget - $ 45,300 (prorated major league minimum of $ 555,000 if/when on active 25 man roster)

    ---Catchers---
    (3) 25 Man:
    C - Tucker Barnhart - $ 2,500,000
    C - Curt Casali - $ 950,000
    C/3B - Kyle Farmer - $ 557,500 (prorated minor league minimum of $ 90,400 if/when on optional assignment)

    (0) 40 Man - Reserve:
    C - NONE

    ---Infielders---
    (5) 25 Man:
    1B - Joey Votto - $ 25,000,000
    2B/SS - Jose Peraza - $ 2,775,000
    SS/3B - Jose Igesias - $ 2,500,000
    3B - Eugenio Suarez - $ 7,000,000
    2B/1B - Derek Dietrich - $ 2,000,000

    (1) 40 Man - Reserve:
    SS/3B - Blake Trahan - $ 45,300 (prorated major league minimum of $ 555,000 if/when on active 25 man roster)

    ---Outfielders---
    (4) 25 Man:
    LF/RF - Jesse Winker - $ 580,000 (prorated minor league minimum of $ 90,400 if/when on optional assignment)
    CF/RF - Scott Schebler - $ 625,000 (prorated minor league minimum of $ 90,400 if/when on optional assignment)
    RF/LF - Yasiel Puig - $ 9,700,000
    LF/RF - Matt Kemp - $ 14,500,000 ($ 21,500,000 Base Salary - $ 7,000,000 Payment from LAD)

    (2) 40 Man - Reserve:
    LF/RF - Philip Ervin - $ 90,400 (prorated major league minimum of $ 557,500 if/when on active 25 man roster)
    CF/RF - Jose Siri - $ 90,400 (prorated major league minimum of $ 555,000 if/when on active 25 man roster)

    ---Disabled List---
    (0) 60 Day-IL:
    NONE

    (3) 10 Day-IL:
    LHSP - Alex Wood - $ 9,650,000
    2B - R.J. "Scooter" Gennett - $ 9,775,000
    SS/2B - Alex Blandino - $ 557,500 (prorated minor league minimum of $ 90,400 if/when on optional assignment)

    ---Restricted List---
    NONE

    ---Dead Money---
    SP - Bronson Arroyo - $ 1,406,500 (yearly deferred contract through 2021)
    OF - Ken Griffey Jr. - $ 3,593,500 (yearly deferred contract through 2024)

    Total Payroll: $ 131,712,100
    Total Payroll sans Dead Money: $ 126,712,100

    (Largest Payroll in Franchise History when not including "Dead Money")

    *Last year's opening day payroll was $ 107,146,500


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    A Look At Who Still Has Options Remaining


    (0) Three Options Remaining - Special Case: (Rule 5 Selections can't be optioned in the first season after being selected)
    NONE

    (4) Three Options Remaining:
    (3.159) RHRP - Michael Lorenzen
    (0.000) RHRP - Jimmy Herget
    (0.030) SS/3B - Blake Trahan
    (1.000) SS/2B - Alex Blandino

    (10) Two Options Remaining:
    (4.062) RHSP - Anthony DeSclafani (burned 2014 w/ MIA)
    (1.018) RHSP - Tyler Mahle (burned 2018 w/ CIN)
    (0.000) RHSP - Jose Lopez (burned 2018 w/ CIN)
    (0.027) RHRP - Jesus Reyes (burned 2018 w/ CIN)
    (2.010) LHRP - Wandy Peralta (burned 2018 w/ CIN)
    (1.101) RHSP - Luis Castillo (burned 2017 w/ CIN)
    (2.102) RHRP - Matt Bowman (burned 2018 w/ STL)
    (4.075) C - Tucker Barnhart (burned 2014 w/ CIN)
    (1.080) LF/RF - Jesse Winker (burned 2017 w/ CIN)
    (0.000) CF/RF - Jose Siri (burned 2018 w/ CIN)

    (11) One Option Remaining:
    (0.110) RHSP - Lucas Sims (burned 2018 w/ ATL, and burned 2017 w/ ATL)
    (0.065) RHSP - Keury Mella (burned 2018 w/ CIN, and burned 2017 w/ CIN)
    (3.154) RHRP - Raisel Iglesias (burned 2015 w/ CIN, and burned 2014 w/ CIN)
    (1.081) RHRP - Sal Romano (burned 2017 w/ CIN, and burned 2016 w/ CIN)
    (1.000) RHRP - Jackson Stephens (burned 2018 with CIN, and burned 2017 w/ CIN)
    (1.067) LHRP - Cody Reed (burned 2018 w/ CIN, and burned 2017 w/ CIN)
    (0.129) C/3B - Kyle Farmer (burned 2018 w/ LAD, and burned 2017 w/ LAD)
    (2.141) 2B/SS - Jose Peraza (burned 2016 w/ CIN, and burned 2015 w/ LAD-ATL)
    (4.061) 3B - Eugenio Suarez (burned 2015 w/ CIN, and burned 2014 w/ DET)
    (0.162) LF/RF - Phillip Ervin (burned 2018 w/ CIN, and burned 2017 w/ CIN)
    (2.132) CF/RF - Scott Schebler (burned 2016 w/ CIN, and burned 2015 w/ LAD)

    (4) Zero Options Remaining:
    (1.049) RHRP - Robert Stephenson (burned 2018 w/ CIN, burned 2017 w/ CIN, and burned 2016 w/ CIN)
    (1.099) LHRP - Amir Garrett (burned 2017 w/ CIN, burned 2016 w/ CIN, and burned 2015 w/ CIN)
    (2.151) C - Curt Casali (burned 2017 w/ TBR, burned 2016 w/ TBR, and burned 2015 w/ TBR)
    (4.151) 2B/1B - Derek Dietrich (burned 2015 w/ MIA, burned 2014 w/ MIA, and burned 2013 w/ MIA)

    (11) Can't Be Optioned: (Players with 5+ years of service can't be optioned w/o their approval no matter whether or not all of their options were previously burned)
    (5.061) RHSP - Sonny Gray
    (5.055) RHSP - Tanner Roark
    (5.123) LHSP - Alex Wood
    (12.054) LHRP - Zach Duke
    (9.084) RHRP - David Hernandez
    (6.162) RHRP - Jared Hughes
    (11.027) 1B - Joey Votto
    (5.071) 2B - R.J. "Scooter" Gennett
    (6.036) SS/3B - Jose Iglesias
    (5.102) RF/LF - Yasiel Puig
    (12.049) LF/RF - Matt Kemp


    ((x.xxx) = MLB Service Time entering 2019 Season))


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    How The Reds 40 Man Roster Was Constructed


    (14) Reds - June, Rule 4 Draft Selections:
    1B - Joey Votto - 2002 - 2nd rd
    C - Tucker Barnhart - 2009 - 10th rd (overslot 3rd rd (sup) bonus)
    RHRP - Robert Stephenson - 2011 - 1st rd
    LHSP - Amir Garrett - 2011 - 22nd rd (overslot 1st rd (sup) bonus)
    RHRP - Sal Romano - 2011 - 23rd rd (overslot 2nd rd bonus)
    LF/RF - Jesse Winker - 2012 - 1st rd (sup)
    RHRP - Jackson Stephens - 2012 - 18th rd
    LF/RF - Phillip Ervin - 2013 - 1st rd
    RHRP - Michael Lorenzen - 2013 - 1st rd (sup)
    RHSP - Tyler Mahle - 2013 - 7th rd
    SS/2B - Alex Blandino - 2014 - 1st rd
    RHSP - Jose Lopez - 2014 - 6th rd (Additional info: Claimed via waivers March 2019 from SFG)
    SS/3B - Blake Trahan - 2015 - 3rd rd
    RHRP - Jimmy Herget - 2015 - 6th rd

    (3) Reds - International Signings:
    LHRP - Wandy Peralta - August 2009 - Dominican Republic
    CF/RF - Jose Siri - September 2012 - Dominican Republic
    RHRP - Raisel Iglesias - June 2014 - Cuba

    (1) Reds - Non Drafted Free Agents:
    RHRP - Jesus Reyes - August 2014

    (15) Reds - Trade Acquisitions:
    3B - Eugenio Suarez - December 2014 - for Alfredo Simon (from DET)
    RHSP - Anthony DeSclafani - December 2014 - for Mat Latos (from MIA)
    LHRP - Cody Reed - July 2015 - for Johnny Cueto (from KCR)
    RHSP - Keury Mella - July 2015 - for Mike Leake (from SFG)
    2B/SS - Jose Peraza - December 2015 - for Todd Frazier (from LAD)
    CF/RF - Scott Schebler - December 2015 - for Todd Frazier (from LAD)
    RHSP - Luis Castillo - January 2017 - for Dan Straily (from MIA)
    C - Curt Casali - May 2018 - for Cash $ (from TBR)
    RHSP - Lucas Sims - July 2018 - for Adam Duvall (from ATL)
    RHSP - Tanner Roark - December 2018 - for Tanner Rainey (from WSH)
    LHSP - Alex Wood - December 2018 - for Jeter Downs (from LAD)
    C/3B - Kyle Farmer - December 2018 - for Jeter Downs (from LAD)
    RF/LF - Yasiel Puig - December 2018 - for Jeter Downs (from LAD)
    LF/RF - Matt Kemp - December 2018 - for Jeter Downs (from LAD)
    RHSP - Sonny Gray - January 2019 - for Shedric Long (from NYY)

    (5) Reds - Free Agent Signings:
    RHRP - Jared Hughes - December 2017
    RHRP - David Hernandez - January 2018
    LHRP - Zach Duke - February 2019
    2B/1B - Derek Dietrich - February 2019 (Minor League Signing - purchased March 2019)
    SS/3B - Jose Iglesias - February 2019 (Minor League Signing - purchased March 2019)

    (2) Reds - Waiver Claims:
    2B - R.J. "Scooter Gennett" - March 2017 (from MIL)
    RHRP - Matt Bowman - November 2018 (from STL)

    (0) Reds - December, Rule 5 Draft Selections:
    NONE


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    Re: Kinsm's 2019 Cincinnati Reds Roster Syllabus

    Very interesting info. So, Blake Trahan and Jimmy Herget only makes a salary of $45,300 while in the minors.

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    Re: Kinsm's 2019 Cincinnati Reds Roster Syllabus

    Nice, thank you. Two questions.

    Is "dead money" typically included when comparing team payrolls?

    Are there a couple other teams involved with salary relief for Kemp?

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    Re: Kinsm's 2019 Cincinnati Reds Roster Syllabus

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    Re: Kinsm's 2019 Cincinnati Reds Roster Syllabus

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsFanInMS View Post
    Very interesting info. So, Blake Trahan and Jimmy Herget only makes a salary of $45,300 while in the minors.
    Correct, that is the minimum salary for a 1st year contract player while in the minors - it is ultimately prorated per day of service.

    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    Nice, thank you. Two questions.

    Is "dead money" typically included when comparing team payrolls?

    Are there a couple other teams involved with salary relief for Kemp?
    No, dead money is typically not included. Noted, the 2015 payroll was higher when including the dead money owed to Ludwick, Hannahan, LeCure, Arroyo, and Griffey.

    There have been numerous reports about different clubs previous salary proportions being included, though I have been told differently from someone with the Reds.

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    pregame waiver move
    Got it, updated prior to first pitch.

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    Re: Kinsm's 2019 Cincinnati Reds Roster Syllabus

    Goes to show for those younger guys, there's an enormous difference in the paycheck if they're on the 25 man or not. It's the difference between getting paid a little over minimum wage to a half mill/yr.

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    Re: Kinsm's 2019 Cincinnati Reds Roster Syllabus

    This is very well done.

    If I may make a suggestion (or maybe I missed it), add Free Agency dates for the players with over 6 years of service time so we know when we lose them? Also maybe add extensions under additional info for players such as Votto and Barnhart?
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    Re: Kinsm's 2019 Cincinnati Reds Roster Syllabus

    Thanks kinsm. I spend a lot of time looking this stuff up for reference. Nice to have it all in one place. Well Done.
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    Re: Kinsm's 2019 Cincinnati Reds Roster Syllabus

    Kinsm, Did the Reds count the dead money twice? Meaning when it was originally differed and then again now as it's due.
    WHEN DOES IT STOP!?!?

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    Re: Kinsm's 2019 Cincinnati Reds Roster Syllabus

    Interesting stuff. I'm still amazed we managed to get Castillo for Straily and at the time feeling disappointed we let Straily go. Hindsight is a heck of a drug, huh?

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    Re: Kinsm's 2019 Cincinnati Reds Roster Syllabus

    It took 1/6th of the season for the Reds to make a 40 man roster move, here are the updates:

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    The Reds purchased OF/IF Nick Senzel's contract (0.000 years of service), he was acquired by the Reds in the 1st round of the 2016 draft, he has 3 options remaining. He'll make league minimum while on the 25 man roster, and 45,300$ if/when he's on optional assignment.

    The Reds transferred 2B Scooter Gennett to the 60 Day DL, the earliest he can return from the DL is Monday, May 27th.

    The Reds then released OF'er Matt Kemp, the Reds will have paid him nearly 15M$ for a month of play (minus whatever someone else may sign him for).

    The Reds 40 man roster now stands at 39.


    (As far as 25 man moves go, Schebler was optioned - if he's down for 20 days he will burn his final option year. Reed has been recalled, after this season he will no longer be able to be optioned.)

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