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Thread: The future of Votto

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    because I'm looking at more stats than OBP. I don't solely base my batting lineup decisions on one stat. I see you look at Votto's OBP of .347 and Iglesias' of .336 and decide "hey my #2 hitter is Votto." Know what the difference is between .347 and .336 in terms of getting on base for Iglesias? About 3 walks...I'll accept 3 less walks over a 70 game span and prefer to get the increased batting avg and power that Iglesias is giving me.
    I like Iglesias so this is no knock on him but what power does Iglesias give you?
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    Re: The future of Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolando View Post
    I like Iglesias so this is no knock on him but what power does Iglesias give you?
    At the time of that post Votto was slugging .388. Just about everyone gives you more power than that and that includes Iglesias

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    At the time of that post Votto was slugging .388. Just about everyone gives you more power than that and that includes Iglesias
    Well hopefully Votto keeps improving this season are Iglesias doesn't fall back to his career norms.
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    Re: The future of Votto

    Votto over the past 28 days has hit a very Vottoian slash line of .306/.398/.514/.911

    Has the no-stick, all glove Jose Iglesias ever sustained a line like that over 4 weeks, even at his very best? I am guessing not.

    He is hitting a cool 242/299/323/621 over the same period...basically he had an amazing start to the year but is exactly what he always has been his entire career.

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Jose Iglesias has more than delivered based on the expectations when signed. He's having a career year at the plate and playing gold glove type defense at short. I'm not sure why there's a need to minimize his contribution based on what Votto does or doesn't do.

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Votto up to .781 OPS, I guess he really does want to get to .800 by 7/1.
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Votto up to .781 OPS, I guess he really does want to get to .800 by 7/1.
    Don't give up on the dream.
    Friends don't let friends fWAR.

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverfrontRed View Post
    Jose Iglesias has more than delivered based on the expectations when signed. He's having a career year at the plate and playing gold glove type defense at short. I'm not sure why there's a need to minimize his contribution based on what Votto does or doesn't do.
    I am sorry it came off that way...I really like Iglesias and enjoy watching him play defense. I am a fan of his for sure.

    But there is plenty of data on what he can do with his bat, and I wouldn't expect much on that end moving forward. Some are acting like he is likely a better moving forward than Votto, which is simply unreasonable.

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    Re: The future of Votto

    2019 splits
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    Batting Order	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	HBP	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
    Batting #1	56	7	9	1	0	2	3	10	0	18	1	0	.161	.288	.286	.574
    Batting #2	201	31	59	14	1	6	17	27	3	47	0	0	.294	.384	.463	.847
    http://www.espn.com/mlb/player/split...670/joey-votto

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by CaiGuy View Post
    I am sorry it came off that way...I really like Iglesias and enjoy watching him play defense. I am a fan of his for sure.

    But there is plenty of data on what he can do with his bat, and I wouldn't expect much on that end moving forward. Some are acting like he is likely a better moving forward than Votto, which is simply unreasonable.
    I'm more convinced now that Votto will repeat the year he had last year, with maybe a couple more HRs since he's up to 8. As for Iglesias, all I know is that he's leading the team in batting and no one saw that coming. I'd say that Dietrich has leveled off way more than Iglesias. I'll be surprised if Dietrich ends up with more than 25 HRs.

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    2019 splits
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    Batting Order	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	HBP	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
    Batting #1	56	7	9	1	0	2	3	10	0	18	1	0	.161	.288	.286	.574
    Batting #2	201	31	59	14	1	6	17	27	3	47	0	0	.294	.384	.463	.847
    http://www.espn.com/mlb/player/split...670/joey-votto
    Yeah, that was a bad experiment...let's not ever try that again.

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Batting Votto lead off has been Bell's biggest blunder. I could see it for a few games out of desperation, but he shouldn't have done it 15 times.

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Joey Votto: .261/.358/.418

    Paul Goldschmidt: .253/.342/.420

    Matt Carpenter: .217/.327/.384 (still hammering the Reds, but yikes)
    I dont care, Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. Hes in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by tom servo View Post
    joey votto: .261/.358/.418

    paul goldschmidt: .253/.342/.420

    matt carpenter: .217/.327/.384 (still hammering the reds, but yikes)
    age happens

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    Re: The future of Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by JCM11 View Post
    Batting Votto lead off has been Bell's biggest blunder. I could see it for a few games out of desperation, but he shouldn't have done it 15 times.
    It was like he was trying to prove something....to someone.
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