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    Re: NBA 2019-2020 (I知 not your fwend buddy!)

    Quote Originally Posted by KoryMac5 View Post
    Charania on CBS Sports "There's not a team in the league right now that is [willing] to trade for Chris Paul. Even teams that they've called as just a dump, like 'We'll give you Chris Paul for free,' those teams are like 'No, we're good.'"
    All they had to do was not pay him last summer.

    Yet I don't believe that no one would take Paul. Maybe not today, but somebody's going to want a PG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goreds2 View Post
    This is my SIXERS season to go to the finals.
    Philly's going to be all kinds of interesting once free agency opens up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    All they had to do was not pay him last summer.

    Yet I don't believe that no one would take Paul. Maybe not today, but somebody's going to want a PG.
    Look at that contract again:

    $38,506,482
    $41,358,814
    $44,211,146

    Who would be willing to take that on?

    What team has that much money lying around in dead contracts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Philly's going to be all kinds of interesting once free agency opens up.
    I suspect they'll sign one of Harris or Butler. They also have to hope Redick takes another discount.

    Even then, the holes that were evident last season aren't going away.

    Redick has a limited shelf life as a shooter and struggled late last year.

    Embiid has a limited shelf life as a dominant big and showed poorly late last year. His lack of conditioning (and perhaps work ethic?) is also troubling.

    Simmons has decided not to work on his broken shot for two summers now.

    They have no depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    Look at that contract again:

    $38,506,482
    $41,358,814
    $44,211,146

    Who would be willing to take that on?

    What team has that much money lying around in dead contracts?
    Detroit
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    Detroit
    You really think Detroit's moving Drummond and Jackson for Paul?

    That's insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    I suspect they'll sign one of Harris or Butler. They also have to hope Redick takes another discount.

    Even then, the holes that were evident last season aren't going away.

    Redick has a limited shelf life as a shooter and struggled late last year.

    Embiid has a limited shelf life as a dominant big and showed poorly late last year. His lack of conditioning (and perhaps work ethic?) is also troubling.

    Simmons has decided not to work on his broken shot for two summers now.

    They have no depth.
    Sign one of Butler/Harris & add depth would seem to be the plan. They've got more than $60M to spend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    You really think Detroit's moving Drummond and Jackson for Paul?

    That's insane.
    I floated Boston as a possibility.

    They are in the mix with Capela and with Kyrie likely leaving for Brooklyn they are going to have two gaping holes to fill now.

    A deal centered around Capela/CP3 going to Boston and Hayward, Jaylen Brown, and Marcus Smart heading west along with draft picks or other young players could pique the Rockets interest.
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    From the Boston Herald:

    Al Horford’s Celtic career has apparently come to an end after three years with the club. According to a source close to the All-Star center, his representation has ceased discussions with the Celts on a new contract.
    The Celtics must have been some kind of train wreck last season.

    That said, were I Ainge, I'd be on the phone to Boogie Cousins as fast as I could. I'd also see how many draft picks Memphis wanted for Conley (and be willing to give up all three, if necessary, plus Marcus Smart).

    Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Conley, and Cousins would be, IMO, the heavy favorites to win the East next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    I floated Boston as a possibility.

    They are in the mix with Capela and with Kyrie likely leaving for Brooklyn they are going to have two gaping holes to fill now.

    A deal centered around Capela/CP3 going to Boston and Hayward, Jaylen Brown, and Marcus Smart heading west along with draft picks or other young players could pique the Rockets interest.
    Why would Boston do that, though?

    Hayward and Brown are the two best players in that deal. And you could argue Smart will be a better player than Paul as early as next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    You really think Detroit's moving Drummond and Jackson for Paul?

    That's insane.
    Jackson, Leuer and Galloway would clear the space for Paul. Detroit's in cap hell and Griffin/Drummond are on a right-now timetable. So is Paul. I'm sure they'll check into other options first, but who else is giving them treasure for trash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    From the Boston Herald:



    The Celtics must have been some kind of train wreck last season.

    That said, were I Ainge, I'd be on the phone to Boogie Cousins as fast as I could. I'd also see how many draft picks Memphis wanted for Conley (and be willing to give up all three, if necessary, plus Marcus Smart).

    Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Conley, and Cousins would be, IMO, the heavy favorites to win the East next season.
    Keep an eye on Vucevich. They're also going to trade away some draft picks. For who/what, I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Jackson, Leuer and Galloway would clear the space for Paul. Detroit's in cap hell and Griffin/Drummond are on a right-now timetable. So is Paul. I'm sure they'll check into other options first, but who else is giving them treasure for trash?
    They don't need to make any deal to see that money off the books. They just have to show patience.

    Jackson's deal ends after this season. So does Leuer's. And Galloway's.

    Paul would still be owed roughly half a billion dollars at that point.

    If they wanted to make a deal, though, I could see Andrew Wiggins as an appealing option. I'm fairly sure Jackson and Galloway would work for the Wolves. (Wiggins is a wing shooter who's badly needed in Detroit and would be an intriguing talent for Casey to work with.)

    Charlotte would be willing to exchange poor contracts. Malik Monk and Marvin Williams for Reggie Jackson? I could see that.

    Jackson, despite injuries, had a solid season and is only under contract for another season. He's a fairly attractive chip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoryMac5 View Post
    Charania on CBS Sports "There's not a team in the league right now that is [willing] to trade for Chris Paul. Even teams that they've called as just a dump, like 'We'll give you Chris Paul for free,' those teams are like 'No, we're good.'"
    Does Houston have one of those moves left where they can cut a player and spread his remaining contract across extra years? It mortgages the future and is a dangerous move. Olshey made this mistake on one recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    They don't need to make any deal to see that money off the books. They just have to show patience.

    Jackson's deal ends after this season. So does Leuer's. And Galloway's.
    And all they've wasted is a year of what Blake Griffin has left. I mean, they can do that. Can they sell tickets to it? Is any decent free agent going to want to play for that team heading into the following season? CP3 would make them better, giving them a chance to play respectable basketball for a few years before they're plunged into a complete rebuild.

    Agree that Minny and Charlotte might find themselves with nowhere else to go as well.
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