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    Jameson VS. Trammell

    I have watched several video clips and also looked up prospect lists, both recent and when they were drafted.
    Honestly, I don't see much of a difference between the two.

    Someone please let me know what I'm missing.......

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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    We're doing this now? lol

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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    This should be fun to follow.

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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    The difference is Jameson's much smaller with zero power.
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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    The difference is Jameson's much smaller with zero power.
    Jameson has 14 more (31) XBH than TT (17) this year so far. What does that say about TT’s power?
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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Jameson has 14 more (31) XBH than TT (17) this year so far. What does that say about TT’s power?
    that if this is a new Trammell and this is the part is going to be then hasta la vista
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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    Definitely some similarities and a portion of their potential outcomes overlap. Hannah’s top 50 percentile probably overlaps Trammells bottom 50 percentile. Trammells upside is much greater because he is a bigger and stronger body with legit raw power, along with a better ability to draw a walk.

    Trammells realistic best outcome is probably a .275/.375/.525 type hitter. Where Hannah’s is more like a .300/.370/.425 type bat.
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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    Hannah was 2 for 4 with a BB and a triple in his first game with Daytona. Let the fun begin lol.

    Trammell is never going to slug .525 that just isn't happening. His best possible outcome in MLB would be the numbers he put up in A ball in 2017.
    Last edited by JCM11; 08-03-2019 at 11:12 AM.

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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    Quote Originally Posted by Griffey012 View Post
    Definitely some similarities and a portion of their potential outcomes overlap. Hannah’s top 50 percentile probably overlaps Trammells bottom 50 percentile. Trammells upside is much greater because he is a bigger and stronger body with legit raw power, along with a better ability to draw a walk.

    Trammells realistic best outcome is probably a .275/.375/.525 type hitter. Where Hannah’s is more like a .300/.370/.425 type bat.
    .525?

    Where are you getting that number from?
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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    .525?

    Where are you getting that number from?
    There are 30 players in MLB right now with a .525 or higher slg%. Bregman, Lindor, Arenado are at the bottom of that list.

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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Jameson has 14 more (31) XBH than TT (17) this year so far. What does that say about TT’s power?
    That TT with his ISO in steep decline (.098 on the season) looks a lot like Hannah (.103). BTW, they're the same age and Hannah was playing a level lower in one of the best hitting circuits.

    Maybe TT never gets back to the track he once was on, but Hannah's never been on that track. I'm sticking with my Javon Moran comparison.
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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    That TT with his ISO in steep decline (.098 on the season) looks a lot like Hannah (.103). BTW, they're the same age and Hannah was playing a level lower in one of the best hitting circuits.

    Maybe TT never gets back to the track he once was on, but Hannah's never been on that track. I'm sticking with my Javon Moran comparison.
    Obviously I would take TT over Jameson at this point, but I think both are very flawed players and I don’t think either will have much of an MLB career. With that said, it’s nice to have another legit CF in the organization.
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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    .525?

    Where are you getting that number from?
    Just took a wild guess on a whim. That’s an unlikely scenario, I’m talking about 95th-100th percentile outcomes here. Trammell has the raw power/speed to be an extra base hit machine, and this outcome is everything coming together and Him tapping into his raw power. I agree .525 is a bit high, but the number itself isn’t the point I was trying to make.
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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    TT wasn't a true Cf candidate - the arm was weak, not even average. Room to develop power but so far not showing it. Hannah, OTOH, is a true CF prospect but is smaller with less room for power growth - however he does show gap power already. Bottomline I like the swap considering it nets a year of Bauer and gives the Reds a CF possibility. I think Hannah's ML possibilities are better than an average prospect remembering that except for a handful of true top prospects all prospects (including TT) are long shots.
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    Re: Jameson VS. Trammell

    Ceiling for Trammell is Carl Crawford or Curtis Granderson.

    Ceiling for Hannah is Coco Crisp or Scott Posednick.

    Trammell has a better opportunity to reach his ceiling, too.
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