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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    I thought for the most part he pitched well this season for the Reds. Take away one appearance up in Colorado, and his ERA is 3.04. Makes no sense to me. Career ERA of 2.83. Reasonable team option for 2020. That seems like the type of pitcher the Reds will be looking for.
    Kind of agree with this. Club option for 3m, buyout only $250,000 so hopefully they spend the money wisely.

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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

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    There might actually only be like 1 or 2 players left on the roster who are actually older than I am now that I think about it, which I’m going to stop doing immediately.
    I know this feeling. Ichiro was the last Major Leaguer older than me, so the end of that series in Japan made me sad

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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    This got me curious and I apparently missed that the first player born in the 2000s has already been upon is. Elvis Luciano, a reliever for the Blue Jays. Oh and there's no more players who were active in the 20th century left in MLB.

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    The last Red who was older than me was Arthur Rhodes.

    The first Red who was younger than me was Willie Greene.
    I’m pretty sure the first Red younger than me was Billy Hamilton, he’s like 2-3 weeks younger than I am.

    I’m assuming they’ll still trade for some mid 30’s vets here and there so I think I still got a while before I see the last Red older than me. It’s already wild that every new player or prospect that gets called up at this point is younger than me now, that took some getting used to.
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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    The first red who was younger than me was Homer Bailey by 5 months. The Only current red older than me is Joey Votto, I suspect he will be the last red older than me.

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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    Hughes is on pace to hit another 250K$ in bonuses this season, PHI will now pay those if he hits them.

    Reds will miss the groundball specialist next season.

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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    My take on this is that if they don't keep Hughes for 3 mil next season, I bet Desclafani might be pitching somewhere else in 2020 since he's 3rd time Arb.
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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    Quote Originally Posted by CaribbeanRed View Post
    My take on this is that if they don't keep Hughes for 3 mil next season, I bet Desclafani might be pitching somewhere else in 2020 since he's 3rd time Arb.
    Disco is a starter. Different pay grade. Even in arb next year he’s probably a bargain.

    He’s only at $2.13 million this year reportedly.
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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    The Reds had obviously made the decision that Hughes was not going to be part of the team next year, rightly or wrongly.

    So may as well save the money. Toronto did the exact same thing with Galvis.

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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Disco is a starter. Different pay grade. Even in arb next year he’s probably a bargain.

    He’s only at $2.13 million this year reportedly.
    So probably 4 or 5 million next season?

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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    Hate letting Hughes go. Bowman has a history with Bell. Seems to be something like that behind this.
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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Serafini View Post
    I know this feeling. Ichiro was the last Major Leaguer older than me, so the end of that series in Japan made me sad
    Jamie Moyer was the last player older than me. I was hoping he would make it to 50 but didn't.

    I liked Hughes too. He was really good last season. Not so much this year but that seems they way with most relief pitchers. It didn't seem as though Bell liked him for whatever reason. Best of luck to him in Philly.
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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    I thought for the most part he pitched well this season for the Reds. Take away one appearance up in Colorado, and his ERA is 3.04. Makes no sense to me. Career ERA of 2.83. Reasonable team option for 2020. That seems like the type of pitcher the Reds will be looking for.
    yeah, i don't get this at all.

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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    Hughes' numbers have gone in the wrong direction pretty much across the board this year and his velocity continues to decrease. I don't know that I would have waived him at the moment if I were making the call just because I figure you could use him the rest of the way this year and then buy him out in the offseason, but I don't think it's particularly going to haunt them.
    “I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”

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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Hughes' numbers have gone in the wrong direction pretty much across the board this year and his velocity continues to decrease. I don't know that I would have waived him at the moment if I were making the call just because I figure you could use him the rest of the way this year and then buy him out in the offseason, but I don't think it's particularly going to haunt them.
    I view Hughes as the minimum acceptable reliever, beyond a lotto ticket or two in the mop-up roles. In an 8 man bullpen, they need about 6 guys as good as him (with 4 or more of those better than him). with Hughes they had 4 guys who meet that minimum threshold. Without him they only have 3. He wasn't expensive next year and now they just have one more spot to fill and it will probably cost them more than Hughes would have. My fear is that this places Stephenson or Sims higher up the bullpen food chain in 2020. If so, I think that has failure written all over it.
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    Re: Hughes waived, claimed by PHI; Kuhnel selected; Bowman recalled; Romano optioned

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    I view Hughes as the minimum acceptable reliever, beyond a lotto ticket or two in the mop-up roles. In an 8 man bullpen, they need about 6 guys as good as him (with 4 or more of those better than him). with Hughes they had 4 guys who meet tat threshold. Without him they only have 3. He wasn't expensive next year and now they just have one more spot to fill and it will probably cost them more than Hughes would have. My fear is that this places Stephenson or Sims higher up the bullpen food chain in 2020. If so, I think that has failure written all over it.
    That's fair, it does largely depend on the shape of the 2020 bullpen. There's certainly a case for having kept Hughes, but I think production similar to his 2019 season can be found elsewhere (like Hughes was off the scrap heap), and possibly for cheaper than $3 million.

    FWIW, Stephenson has provided more value out of the pen this year than Hughes (ERA is the only category where Hughes has him beat and that isn't far off either), even if he seems harder to 'trust'.
    “I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”


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