My Dream Offseason!!

[Tribe Guy]

Since you seem to be an expert and the Indians need an OF I hear, what would be a fair trade for Pham's services to the Indians?

I have not seen anything that shows that Pham is being shopped. Garcia is a free agent so I don't see Tampa getting rid of a second major league outfielder. So I don't see a trade with the Indians or Reds for Pham.

Cleveland's biggest need this offseason is to get an infielder to replace Jason Kipnis as they did not pick up his option. They will be shopping for a 2B or 3B with Jose Ramirez playing the other position. I would think they would also look at a bullpen piece as they usually do. As far as the outfield goes they have Bradley Zimmer returning from injury and Daniel Johnson from AAA Columbus to add to the mix so they may add to the outfield mix or not.

I do not consider myself an expert, but I do consider myself a well educated, longtime baseball fan. I am also very realistic fan.

[Tribe Guy]

Mahle's metrics do have some impact on his trade value.

Home road splits

Home He walks 4.2 per 9. Road he walks 1.23 per 9.
Home His k/bb is 2.39. Road his k/bb is 6.73.
Home Era is 5.66 and xFIP is 4.66. Road ERA 4.82 xFIP is 3.58
Home Hard contact rate is 40.9%. Road is 33.6%

He obviously doesn't feel comfortable pitching in the Reds ball park. A move to a bigger ball park like Tampa or Seattle would likely make a big difference in this guy. He clearly nibbles more at home and in turn walks more. On the road it appears he goes after hitters more and trusts his stuff as his walk rate plummets. He has better trade value than one would think on the surface when you dig into the numbers. His strand rate is awful also which is the difference in his ERA and xFIP.

That may be true, but that does not mean that Tampa would need or be interested in him. Seattle's weakness, on the other hand, is starting pitching so they may have an interest in him.

[SErebel11]

I have not seen anything that shows that Pham is being shopped. Garcia is a free agent so I don't see Tampa getting rid of a second major league outfielder. So I don't see a trade with the Indians or Reds for Pham.

Cleveland's biggest need this offseason is to get an infielder to replace Jason Kipnis as they did not pick up his option. They will be shopping for a 2B or 3B with Jose Ramirez playing the other position. I would think they would also look at a bullpen piece as they usually do. As far as the outfield goes they have Bradley Zimmer returning from injury and Daniel Johnson from AAA Columbus to add to the mix so they may add to the outfield mix or not.

I do not consider myself an expert, but I do consider myself a well educated, longtime baseball fan. I am also very realistic fan.

Well the numbers are right on the Mahle and Pham deal in terms of value. As I said, the Rays deal in pitchers as currency. Mahle has more trade value than Pham because his valuation is better on his contract and he is a young pitcher vs a 32 year old OF. It is not selfish to give up more than you are getting in return. I never said that Mahle would play a game for the Rays. He could easily be flipped for another piece they could use. Just as an example. They need a catcher. They have traded multiple times with Seattle. Pham is not going to get them a catcher from the Mariners. Mahle is a fair trade for either of those catchers that they have and they are cheap. Seattle needs younger pitching talent. etc etc

Who knows if he is available, he may not be. But the Rays have never shied away from moving a player that is age before said player was thought to be available especially as budget conscious as they are. They straight up cut Corey Dickerson after posting a 2.6 WAR season.

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Yeah, I'm gonna agree with the dissenters and say Mahle-for-Pham (even with secondary pieces) is a total pipe dream. No idea why TB would consider that this winter. As others have mentioned, Romano also has just no value at all. Negative value, if anything.

My semi-realistic dream off-season would probably be:

Firstly, non-tender Peraza, Gausman, and Dietrich. Pick up the 5M Galvis option.

Sign C Yasmani Grandal for 3/60

I imagine this takes anywhere from 3/54 - 3/64. If a fourth year is what puts us over the hump, do it. I would try to be aggressive and angle to get a deal done early, even if doing so costs us slightly more. There are so many holes to fill this off-season, and the sooner we can fill some of those gaps the more we'll be able to focus on other areas of need. We're unlucky in that most of the positions we're trying to fill have super thin markets, so if we drag our knuckles too long we could get caught with bargain bin options as soon as the calendar turns.

Grandal would be the anchor around which the entire off-season revolves, for me. Once he signs, the options would branch down two roads: a CF acquisition, or a 2B.

I would ideally like to net a true CF and shift Senzel back to the infield, but there are, like... none available. At all. Maybe JBJ if he's cut? The metrics might not love it, but I'd be totally fine slotting Starling Marte in. In fact, as soon as the ink was dry on Grandal, I'd be pushing TySteve on Pittsburgh hard. Maybe...

Trade C Tyler Stephenson, 3B Rece Hinds, and OF José Siri for OF Starling Marte

Trade evaluations are tricky; triply so for intra-divisional deals. Does this get it done? If so, I'm 1,000% down. If it requires one of the Lodolo/India/Greene triumvirate, I'm 1,000% out. If that's the case, I'd then pivot toward either:

Sign 2B Mike Moustakas for 2/23

OR

Trade OF José Siri and RHP Ryan Hendrix for SS/2B Jonathan Villar

Moustakas is probably only a 2.5 - 3.0 win player over the next two years, but he's rock-solid in his consistency (an underrated skill for a big go-for-it season) and adds much needed power. Villar was quietly a 4 win player last season and could even pull some adequate playing time at SS. He's got one year of arb left and is estimated by MLBTradeRumors to make ~10M in 2020.

Especially if Villar is acquired, then:

Sign 2B/1B Howie Kendrick for 2/12.5

I have no idea how to gauge Kendrick's potential earnings (especially if he gets the Eovaldi 'post-season heroics' bump) but he's a 36-year-old middle infielder coming off two REALLY solid offensive seasons (three, really). If Moustakas is the choice then he's less desirable, but if Villar is acquired you get the option of starting Villar at SS and Kendrick at 2B; Galvis becomes a late-inning defensive sub or bench slugger. In either event Kendrick has a pretty big bonus skillset for the Reds: he can spell Votto at 1B against tough lefties.

Sign OF Billy Hamilton for 1/3

Hi and we love you and welcome home and also you're a pinch runner/late inning specialist now.

Sign Gio Gonzalez for 1/7

Gio had to settle for pennies mid-season, so I'm thinking this would get it done. As much as we probably would hate to say, he's also probably a decent upgrade over Mahle for the innings he'll be available to pitch. Plus, Mahle then could become an effective reliever at a MUCH better rate than we'd have to pay an equivalent one on the open market.

And let's be honest: someone is going to get hurt. Depth depth depth depth depth depth. And depth. If we can afford it, sign Jordan Lyles cheap, too.

Sign LHP Tony Sipp for 1/1

Lefty bounceback option? At this point I assume we're way over budget.

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I didn't put that much thought into the money or 40 man, so if anything seems off in that regard I apologize. Honestly, even if they were to pull something like this off, I still think another corner OF and RP is needed. Trades, I suppose then. Man, there's a lot of work to do this winter. The Bauer trade really puts the pressure on.

[Tribe Guy]

Well the numbers are right on the Mahle and Pham deal in terms of value. As I said, the Rays deal in pitchers as currency. Mahle has more trade value than Pham because his valuation is better on his contract and he is a young pitcher vs a 32 year old OF. It is not selfish to give up more than you are getting in return. I never said that Mahle would play a game for the Rays. He could easily be flipped for another piece they could use. Just as an example. They need a catcher. They have traded multiple times with Seattle. Pham is not going to get them a catcher from the Mariners. Mahle is a fair trade for either of those catchers that they have and they are cheap. Seattle needs younger pitching talent. etc etc

Who knows if he is available, he may not be. But the Rays have never shied away from moving a player that is age before said player was thought to be available especially as budget conscious as they are. They straight up cut Corey Dickerson after posting a 2.6 WAR season.

Mahle may have more value, but Tampa Bay has not shown interest in parting with Pham from what I have read so continuing to state all of your comments mean little if there is no interest in trading him. From what I read earlier today, it sounds like they may resign catcher Travis d'Arnaud so that would solve their need for a catcher.

Yes, Pham would look good in a Reds uniform. He would look good in an Indian uniform, but it takes two to tango and I again I have not read that they are shopping him. Just because the numbers are right does not mean that both teams would be interested in a deal.

[RedTeamGo!]

Unless you can prove your comment it means nothing to me. I have not been able to find any video to back your claim With that said, Cleveland still would have no need for Mahle

It was a video taken by my coworker on his own phone.

I am not going to say specifically what he did in it, all I will say it is illegal and often leads to the financial, personal, and professional ruin of many people.

Let me put it this way, if the Reds traded anything of moderate value for Clevenger I would be quite upset.

[DocRed]

Why Yanks could let Didi leave as free agent

https://www.mlb.com/news/yankees-rum...s-and-signings

[Old school 1983]

Not a dream type move, but why not look at a Todd Frazier reunion? He can over every IF position but SS. Could spell Votto versus tough lefties. Could cover for Suarez without having a power outage in the lineup.

[WrongVerb]

I've been musing about how my dream offseason might change if the NL instituted the DH before next year.

I could imagine signing Alex Gordon. Gordon, Winker, and Votto would make a 3 LH rotation for 1b, LF (no Votto), and DH.
I'd also go ahead and extend Galvis for the 2021 season, picking up his option and giving him a $2M bonus, plus $7.5M in 2021.
Combine that with my previous suggestions to obtain Joc Pederson to play CF, and move Senzel to 2b. That makes for a very reasonable lineup.

[Frank Robinson]

After doing a bit more research I still would try to sign MadBum hopefully for about 3/60 and then add as many others listed below as possible but an infinitely doable offseason would be

Resign SS Jose Iglesias - 3/12 mil

Sign FA
SP LH Wade Miley - 3/27
RP RH Daniel Hudson - 3/10
RP LH Jerry Blevins - 1/3
2B Howie Kendrick - 2/16
SS/2B Eric Sogard - 2/6
RF Matt Joyce - 2/5
C Austin Romine - 2/5

Starting staff would be formidable, relievers should be solid and starting lineups vs RH and LH would OPS over .800 nearly throughout the lineup.

LH MadBum/Miley
RH Gray
RH Castillo
RH Bauer
RH Desclafani

RH Iglesias
RH Lorenzon
LH Garrett
RH Stephenson
RH Hudson
LH Blevins
RH Simms

2B/1B/LF Kendrick
1B Votto
3B Suarez
RF/LF Joyce
CF/RF Aquino
LF Winker
C Barnhart
SS Iglesias

CF/2B Senzel
SS/2B/3B Sogard
OF Ervin
C/1B Romine
UT Farmer

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After doing a bit more research I still would try to sign MadBum hopefully for about 3/60 and then add as many others listed below as possible but an infinitely doable offseason would be

Resign SS Jose Iglesias - 3/12 mil

Sign FA
SP LH Wade Miley - 3/27
RP RH Daniel Hudson - 3/10
RP LH Jerry Blevins - 1/3
2B Howie Kendrick - 2/16
SS/2B Eric Sogard - 2/6
RF Matt Joyce - 2/5
C Austin Romine - 2/5

Starting staff would be formidable, relievers should be solid and starting lineups vs RH and LH would OPS over .800 nearly throughout the lineup.

LH MadBum/Miley
RH Gray
RH Castillo
RH Bauer
RH Desclafani

RH Iglesias
RH Lorenzon
LH Garrett
RH Stephenson
RH Hudson
LH Blevins
RH Simms

2B/1B/LF Kendrick
1B Votto
3B Suarez
RF/LF Joyce
CF/RF Aquino
LF Winker
C Barnhart
SS Iglesias

CF/2B Senzel
SS/2B/3B Sogard
OF Ervin
C/1B Romine
UT Farmer

Personally I’d rather just offer that exact Bumgarnwr deal to Grandal, but I don’t altogether hate the idea of putting a decent amount of effort into the back of the rotation. Still, if they went this route I think I’d still prefer they take that Miley/Sogard/Hudson money and turn it into an Ozuna or Carstellanos or Didi or Moustakas... because honestly I think it takes at least one of the guys in that range to boost the offense into legit contender mode.

[vottofan4life]

Sign Grandal, Howie Kendrick

Sign Disco and Lorenzen to extensions

Trade Gausman (non-tender),Romano(out of options), and Keury Mella (out of options) for Jackie Bradley Jr

Move Senzel back to 2B

Trade Tucker to Twins for Sam Dyson

Trade Hunter Greene, Tony Santillan, Raisel Iglesias, Jonathan India, Tyler Mahle, Michael Siani, Jose Peraza for Kris Bryant and Jose Quintana


Trade Winker to Mariners for Sam Tuivailala

Opening Day Lineup:
2B Senzel
C Grandal
LF Kris Bryant
3B Suarez
1B Votto
RF Aquino
CF Bradley Jr
SS Jose Iglesias

Rotation:
Castillo
Gray
Bauer
Disco
Quintana

Bullpen:
Closer-Lorenzen
Garrett
Sam Tuivailala
Sam Dyson
Lucas sims
Cody Reed
Robert Stephenson

Bench-
Casali
Van Meter
Philip Ervin
Freddy Galvis
Howie Kendrick

[UPRedsFan]

Realistic moves. They arenÂ’t signing Rendon or trading for Betts

Sign Gardner for 1 or 2 yrs. Need another CF not named Lorenzen or Ervin. He can also play left with Winker in right against RHP if Aquino is struggling.
Plan B is to sign Corey Dickerson. But that doesnÂ’t help CF
Sign Scooter to a minor league deal. I just donÂ’t believe heÂ’s done yet.
Sign Grandal
Sign Alex Wood. Extend Castillo and Extend Bauer another yr

Winker
Votto
Suarez
Aquino
Grandal
Senzel
Scooter
Galvis or Iglesias

Barnhart
Gardner/Dickerson (splitting time with Aquino)
JVM
Blandino (gotta have a SS available)
Ervin

[joe51391]

1-sign Ozuna 5yr 110M 22
2-sign Cole 7yr 200M 28.5
3-sign Grandal 3yr 60M 20
4-re-sign Iglesias 2yr 12M 6
5-trade Winker and Iglesias -9 to Braves for Inciarte and Newcomb 7.7
6-trade Disco Mahle and India -5 to Rays for Snell 7.6

Adds 77.8M to the payroll that would put them around 160 to 165

C Grandal
1B Votto
2B Senzel
SS Iglesias
3B Suarez
LF Ozuna
CF Inciarte
RF Aquino

SP1 Cole
SP2 Castillo
SP3 Gray
SP4 Bauer
SP5 Snell

CL Lorenzen
RSU Stephenson
LSU Garrett
RP Newcomb
RP Romano
RP Sims
Long Gausman

[WrongVerb]

There is some criticism about going after vets rather than kids. I don't know if that's warranted or not, but this is an interesting take...

Diamondbacks Notes: Ex-Dbacks, Rizzo, Offense, Marte

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